I was watching this series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrBja_HYSx0&ab_channel=TheViper and let me tell you my man, the Nations Cup of 2017 was a great a Tournament!
Damn Vietnam don't even get a mention 24We already know the final would be china vs finland, brazil third, then argentina, china b, canada and thats pretty much everything
I'm not sure about it. Yeah, prizepools have got a lot bigger lately, but at the same time, nations tournament is not always for the money (at least, money it's not that much important in comparison with other tournaments).It is largely also a question of sponsors. How much do you need nowadays for an S tier 3v3 or 4v4 tournament? A lot.
agree 100%. Even knowing as a ~~2k player I would not win at all, I would love to participate with my friends and see how far we can do.Absolutely! People also tend to forget that Nationscup isn't only about the top 4 teams, just look at the amount of sign ups from the previous editions. I always had a ton of fun playing even if we were a weaker team. There is a reason many countries field so many players, not to win but to participate and have fun.
Performance wise I don't think its as bad as people make it out to be (maybe on the ladder) but private games are more playable than on Voobly. I have been playing on a potato Laptop the past months and the game runs fine until late game.
Yes, but SY Nation's Cup 2 and 3 had funds around $50k already. For NC 3, some of it was used for the players for flights, hotels, etc., but having a $5-10k Nations Cup in 2022 would feel small. And there are not many people or companies who give more than $10k for an AoE II tournament.I'm not sure about it. Yeah, prizepools have got a lot bigger lately, but at the same time, nations tournament is not always for the money (at least, money it's not that much important in comparison with other tournaments).
In addition, I can only think in 3 composed by 4 top players: Finland, China, and Vietnam. And probably Vietnam is less expensive that europe/U. S so probably smaller prizepools are more appealing there than here. (Idk about China).
Other countries with elite players (Austria, gor example) could get an arrangement to give a bigger part of the prizepool to their best player.
Let's take Argentina, for example : yeah, Nicov is used to get good money from tournaments. Same goes for Capoch. But the 3th and 4th players (probably Fedex and Twigg, or maybe Biry) while being amazing players, usually don't get into the main event of S-tier tournaments. So at the end is more money of what they will be getting in a 1v1 s-tier tournament.
Long story short, I think pretty much all top players would probably sign in
Yeah, but nowadays the standar big tournament is at least 20k in prizepool. I believe is more than enough to make a competitive world cup. Let's not forget that pro players are also playing tournaments with far smaller prizesYes, but SY Nation's Cup 2 and 3 had funds around $50k already. For NC 3, some of it was used for the players for flights, hotels, etc., but having a $5-10k Nations Cup in 2022 would feel small. And there are not many people or companies who give more than $10k for an AoE II tournament.
3v3 is superior to 4v4 in almost every way I think. Easier to follow, more teams can be created, etc.
Not a fan of nations cup because the lack of inclusion of Daut/Lierrey, among others, who are personally my favorite players (and big draws overall).
Well, if you like to see these kind of teams formed...This is just stupid. They can form a Team, probably not a one with good chances but in football there are a lot of teams playing which have no chances at all from the beginning.
Well worded point. The "not enough competitive teams" argument is always there for 3v3/4v4 events. Nothing to do with nations cup.agree 100%. Even knowing as a ~~2k player I would not win at all, I would love to participate with my friends and see how far we can do.
about the top four teams, It was the same back in 2017. China, Finland, Brazil, Vietnan... I don't understand why it is a problem now. Just look at the team games tournaments we have had in the last three years. Everyone knew AM, and Secret (back then) would make into them final likely. Maybe Suomi, WWP or Heresy could step up. The "problem" with of only have 4 or 5 favorites team is no exclusevly of a nations cup instead it is always been a thing in tournament games. Look even more in to the past. WCL and the others. We've always knew that only 4 or 6 teams that could step up in the semis and final.
About performace, I understand it is far from perfect but it is doable an least in my pov (A viwer and a bad player)