Re: Which civ has the best archer/skirmisher rush in the gam
there is no best civ to this, brits faster archs and skirms with one of the best arch in castle age, mayans cheap archs, byzantine cheap skirm, huns no houses much more wood for both,aztks 15% faster both of them, celts have more wood for both in feudal age, those are the best civs with bonus in aoc, slavs in aofe?? dont think so, but anyway you need to adapt ur eco for each civ to explode the bonus, japanese have a little wood advantage, mongols have a boost in food wich results in more wood and a good up, vikings have better eco, sarra has +1 attack vs buildings, chinese wtf they don't have any bonus , and well truks since the only little thing they have is the gold bonus it is only 1 oor 2 vill sthat you can have in other resources but at the end nothing special.
So i'd vote for huns because the wood bonus and because you dont get housed while rushing xd
Re: Which civ has the best archer/skirmisher rush in the gam
Archers take ages to make, so the Azt speed bonus (almost as good as Brit ARs) is real good.
Ranged units accumulate power via numbers, so it's important to be able to mass 'em quickly.
But I'd stick to my initial choice, which was Brits.
Good Dark Age bonus+faster ARs = fastest arch/skirm RUSH in game.
Point of a rush is disrupting enemy eco.
Rushing is ....rushing, which means speed. The faster you show up at his base (w/ 2-3 ranged units), the better your rush. No1 can do that like Brits, imo.
PS. Then again, Brits cannot do many things well anyway, so they had better outperform in rushes! :-)
Re: Which civ has the best archer/skirmisher rush in the gam
I think its dependent on how you wish to play.IF you decide to go for the defensive style,Byz are best since you would only be making spears and skirms a lot and only a few archers to turtle into castle age.They save loads of wood to make archers.Their building hp and twch bonuses are acceptable with this too.If you want offensive,Brits are the best IMO.They get a good dark age and if you survive to castle,have +1 range boost.This can deal with CAs quite well IMO.
Defensiveyzantines
Offensiveritons
Voted foryzantines :D
Re: Which civ has the best archer/skirmisher rush in the gam
It's got to be Britons. Mayan bonus doesn't affect skirmishers, while Byzantine bonus doesn't affect archers. Britons have one of the fastest feudal times in the game, with the sheep bonus, and their faster archery ranges mean they can mass faster.
When they do get to castle age, they will get +1 range.
The Aztec bonus doesn't quite measure up; and while they do have a better economy overall, it lacks the burst of speed needed early to be the BEST archer rusher.
Aztecs are perhaps the best OVERALL rushers, but they are not necessarily THE best at any type, except possibly drushing or mushing. The former sees competition from Celts, while the latter sees competition from Saracens.
Re: Which civ has the best archer/skirmisher rush in the gam
Barb, what would be a good way for the Mayans to flush? Not skirmishers, since the bonus doesn't affect them, so that would leave archers.
However, archers are easily owned by skirmishers, and when most people flush, they either use pure skirmishers, or skirmishers with 1 - 5 archers. So should Mayans instead make mostly archer-based armies to kill villagers in Feudal age, and then try to dodge fire whenever enemy skirmishers appear?
What about the Turks? It seems to be the same situation with Mayans - the gold bonus applies to archers, not skirmishers.
Re: Which civ has the best archer/skirmisher rush in the gam
Go 22 pop feudal. Do 2 ranges and smit. Make arches while walling key points. Use archers for defense only. Go castle the fastest you can. Up to x-bows. Make siege workshop. Make mangonel. Skirms useless now.
Re: Which civ has the best archer/skirmisher rush in the gam
Just because the Mayan bonus doesn't apply to skirmishers doesn't mean they can't do well with them. Only Byzantines get cheaper skirmishers, yet they are not the only civilization to use them. Cheap archers combine well with normal skirmishers.
Also, an extra villager, along with resources lasting longer, means a better overall economy. If it's extended feudal warfare, a Mayan will have the advantage over a Briton. The Briton is just faster at getting there.
Re: Which civ has the best archer/skirmisher rush in the gam
Alot of civs have a bonus for one unit in the archery range,it seems.Britons have bonus for both.Mayans can use the extra wood saved from archers for skirmishers and Byzantines can use the wood saved from skirms for archers.Byz gets 25% cheaper skirms while Mayans get something like 10% cheaper archers.But Mayans have 15% longer lasting farms and wood and gold.I think it really depends on the palystyle and situation.
Defensiveyzantines
Sharp offensive with short Feudalritons
Long sustained Feudal war:Mayans and Aztecs
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