Hello everyone, i hope you are doing all well !
First of all i want to say that this post is not to blame pro players or anything, it's just a fact and it's not because of the players i think, it's mostly all those updates and the new features that are in my opinion making viewers and probably also the players ( at least me) enjoy less and less aoc. The players adapt to the new features and i would do exactly the same as them if i was at the top lvl aswell.
I am doing this thread because over the past 2-3 last years, i get more and more unmotivated to watch pro playing 1vs1s because the gameplay has changed so much that nowadays it's all about walling, doing few scouts, getting relics and try to win in imp ( it's basicly what happens in most of 1vs1 with cavalary civs now for example,) that i barely even see the difference between ara and arena. 80% of the games is all about camping positions and trying to get the less risk possible. Of course in random ladder games, we still see few yolo games here and there, but in tournanement it's really rarely that you will see some crazy agressions unless the map is done in a way to make walling impossible. I think in the 3 last years the only tournament i enjoyed was the redbull one because of the settings and because of the final with the crazy performance of mr yo who went super aggro each game. It has been the only games i really enjoyed a lot watching and i'm really happy mr yo got the reward of taking such a high risk. The last tourney before this one i enjoyed was in 2015 with the balance cup ( i don't know if it's called like this) that viper won vs larry in finals. The gameplay at that time was totaly different and we could see a lot of huns wars and much less walling, that tourney was done before WK came in and pallissade gate was for example not existent. This feature pallisade gate is an exemple of one of the cancer features that i really hate, everytime now we can see players using it to defend and it actually buy them a lot of time for the defender and can make them save vills aswell. In my opinion we should remove this thing that is just exhausting to watch, same with fire galleys that is just so boring to watch and play. People don't miss the old good galley wars with insane micro ?!
Also i feel like that on DE the gameplay is way slower than in voobly, in DE you can now assign vills to do whatever you want with the shift button to make your multitasking easier which in my opinion removes a part of the skill with multitasking. If we keep going like this , soon the players won't even have to click on vills production and tcs will auto produce when we hit 50 food lol. It's just ridiculous those features that help the players more and more. For example when i played on DE and cameback on voobly, my lvl went down because i was not used anymore to multitask all my eco, i could see how the difference was huge.
I also miss the old tourneys nili used to host that favors aggressive playstyle with the clash of hippos editions. It was really fun to watch.
I Think if we want this game to get more and more attractive and get more sponsors, we should definetely consider removing those kind of features that only destroys the game for me.
I am doing this thread to get people perspective on this and if possible pro players thoughts about it aswell. I gave my thoughts to few pros and they agreed with me that the meta has changed a lot and they miss the old good days of aoc with more aggresion.
First of all i want to say that this post is not to blame pro players or anything, it's just a fact and it's not because of the players i think, it's mostly all those updates and the new features that are in my opinion making viewers and probably also the players ( at least me) enjoy less and less aoc. The players adapt to the new features and i would do exactly the same as them if i was at the top lvl aswell.
I am doing this thread because over the past 2-3 last years, i get more and more unmotivated to watch pro playing 1vs1s because the gameplay has changed so much that nowadays it's all about walling, doing few scouts, getting relics and try to win in imp ( it's basicly what happens in most of 1vs1 with cavalary civs now for example,) that i barely even see the difference between ara and arena. 80% of the games is all about camping positions and trying to get the less risk possible. Of course in random ladder games, we still see few yolo games here and there, but in tournanement it's really rarely that you will see some crazy agressions unless the map is done in a way to make walling impossible. I think in the 3 last years the only tournament i enjoyed was the redbull one because of the settings and because of the final with the crazy performance of mr yo who went super aggro each game. It has been the only games i really enjoyed a lot watching and i'm really happy mr yo got the reward of taking such a high risk. The last tourney before this one i enjoyed was in 2015 with the balance cup ( i don't know if it's called like this) that viper won vs larry in finals. The gameplay at that time was totaly different and we could see a lot of huns wars and much less walling, that tourney was done before WK came in and pallissade gate was for example not existent. This feature pallisade gate is an exemple of one of the cancer features that i really hate, everytime now we can see players using it to defend and it actually buy them a lot of time for the defender and can make them save vills aswell. In my opinion we should remove this thing that is just exhausting to watch, same with fire galleys that is just so boring to watch and play. People don't miss the old good galley wars with insane micro ?!
Also i feel like that on DE the gameplay is way slower than in voobly, in DE you can now assign vills to do whatever you want with the shift button to make your multitasking easier which in my opinion removes a part of the skill with multitasking. If we keep going like this , soon the players won't even have to click on vills production and tcs will auto produce when we hit 50 food lol. It's just ridiculous those features that help the players more and more. For example when i played on DE and cameback on voobly, my lvl went down because i was not used anymore to multitask all my eco, i could see how the difference was huge.
I also miss the old tourneys nili used to host that favors aggressive playstyle with the clash of hippos editions. It was really fun to watch.
I Think if we want this game to get more and more attractive and get more sponsors, we should definetely consider removing those kind of features that only destroys the game for me.
I am doing this thread to get people perspective on this and if possible pro players thoughts about it aswell. I gave my thoughts to few pros and they agreed with me that the meta has changed a lot and they miss the old good days of aoc with more aggresion.
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