Your thoughts on the DE now, that there have been streams?

[TurboNoob]

What do you think about DE, now that you saw it on stream - and NDA is kind of gone now?

 

[iViktorius]

I still can't find a good tech tree for the new civs + a changelog for the old ones.
Anyone got a good link?

 

[Top_Shot]

I still can't find a good tech tree for the new civs + a changelog for the old ones.
Anyone got a good link?

Watch these for the full tech tree
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheViperAOC
Viper analysed Bulgarians and Cuman tech trees in full. Cant find for other new civs.

 

[theHand]

Seems there's a lot of potential. The new look will take a little getting used to, the matchmaking is interesting, the QOL improvements are mostly beneficial. Instinctively, some units do feel slightly small and/or indistinct from others. But what struck me most was how optimistic Daut and Hera were about the possible breath of fresh air to the game and the meta. Their insights into the changed unit pathing for melee units and how it would be game-changing were cool to learn live. To paraphrase what Hera kept saying, "Daut is like a kid on Christmas morning..." 11

 

[iViktorius]

Info about the new civ's + a changelog for the old civs

CUMANS





BULGARIANS






LITHUANIANS





TATARS





OLD CIVS

link for changelog: https://pastebin.com/dHEF14CA (ty Trirem)


edits: Made it all look a bit nicer. Sources: tyTrirem, tyTheViper, tyJupeeeeeeeee, tyFoggy, tyGman

 

[TriRem]

changelog for the old ones.

I got your back. https://pastebin.com/dHEF14CA

 

[buddy__1]

I have only watched some streams, but i have to say it looks pretty good. Turn off the blur, the game started to feel like watching aoe2 again, and if they get tiny wood eventually would be cool.

Im most curious about TG performance as I havent seen it. Thanks for posting changelog trirem, would be nice to see complete list though (or is that the only balance changes they did?)

 

[wAkKo]

I got your back. https://pastebin.com/dHEF14CA

Good to know that the most useless tech was removed: boiling oil.

Normal xbows with chemistry and no gold cost shouldnt be bad to support paladins. I kinda like what they did to persians.

 

[Top_Shot]

I got your back. https://pastebin.com/dHEF14CA

Nice--Saracens: Mamelukes +5 armor vs Halberdiers
Make Mamelukes Great Again!

 

[RAY]

TG performance is awful, UI could use some work, delay release

edit: graphics are dope though, as Marvino put it: "I mean it's cute..."

 

[Nico77]

I have only watched some streams, but i have to say it looks pretty good. Turn off the blur, the game started to feel like watching aoe2 again, and if they get tiny wood eventually would be cool.

Im most curious about TG performance as I havent seen it. Thanks for posting changelog trirem, would be nice to see complete list though (or is that the only balance changes they did?)

Daut, hera, t90, mattsalsa and dave played a 3v2 and was perfectly fine. only for a moment they felt some lag and hera said it was his pc working at the limit 11 but the rest of the game ran smoothly.

 

[buhanisson]

It seems like I'm not camping outside the store to buy it.

But still I'm optimistic that they can eventually fix it if they get a few weeks or months. After all, any game that gives a boost to mamelukes can't be all bad.

 

[Lovee]

From 'make mamelukes great again' to 'make melee units great again'

 

[Jarvin]

Daut, hera, t90, mattsalsa and dave played a 3v2 and was perfectly fine. only for a moment they felt some lag and hera said it was his pc working at the limit 11 but the rest of the game ran smoothly.

If a streamer's PC is unable to handle a 5 player match on a 20yo game then I call that terrible.
The issue at hand isn't whether AoE2DE will run smoothly on PCs for $2000, it's whether it'll work for people whose PCs are significantly weaker, because that's who predominantly plays AoE2!

 

[Nico77]

If a streamer's PC is unable to handle a 5 player match on a 20yo game then I call that terrible.
The issue at hand isn't whether AoE2DE will run smoothly on PCs for $2000, it's whether it'll work for people whose PCs are significantly weaker, because that's who predominantly plays AoE2!

Well is not 20yo anymore 11 is brand new game, and new graphics and textures require more gpu. Hera said his graphic card wasn't good enough

 

[SuperskinnyBLS]

What graphic card does Hera use?

 

[klavskisLV]

hera has 1050ti, funy how that is not enough for a fkin strategy game, top memes

 

[Dirkjan]

hera has 1050ti, funy how that is not enough for a fkin strategy game, top memes

I played the beta with a 1050ti and i had at least 60 fps all the time (in single player at least)

 

[Jineapple]

Graphic card speed is basically irrelevant. VRAM matters a bit but most likely won't give you a great boost either.
Definitely not a game where having the best graphics card matters.

Single core CPU speed is important, having a good amount of RAM and seemingly how quickly data can be passed between CPU/RAM/GPU.

 

[Huehuecoyotl22]

Graphic card speed is basically irrelevant. VRAM matters a bit but most likely won't give you a great boost either.
Definitely not a game where having the best graphics card matters.

Single core CPU speed is important, having a good amount of RAM and seemingly how quickly data can be passed between CPU/RAM/GPU.

My laptop is almost 3 years old. Because it is relatively old and not expensive (399 € back then), I doubted it would be good enough, but according to the Steam page it should be, what do you think?

Windows 10 64bit; RAM: 8116 MB; Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4210U CPU @ 1.70 GHz (4 CPUs), 2.4 GHz; DirectX 12;
NVIDIA GeForce 940 M

 

[The Quiet Man]

AoE II DE: Quick Notes for UserPatch Players

I wanted to write a quick guide to some of the subtle new behaviors and mechanics for those transitioning from UserPatch to AoE II: DE. There are a number of balance changes to the game that others have covered in detail; I may touch briefly on some balance, but mostly I want to focus on items t...

docs.google.com

Here you can find the other general changes about game's mechanics. Written by Matt Salsa.

 

[ImRiver]

Deleting multiple buildings at the same time is now possible (shift+delete) and safe delete warnings will let you know before deleting TCs, Castles, or large groups of units


I'm kind of in love with this

 

[Marteens]

If a streamer's PC is unable to handle a 5 player match on a 20yo game then I call that terrible.
The issue at hand isn't whether AoE2DE will run smoothly on PCs for $2000, it's whether it'll work for people whose PCs are significantly weaker, because that's who predominantly plays AoE2!

I couldn''t agree more with your comment.

 

[Deathcounter]

Lovely how some the of the civ bonuses are called innovative, while some realms civ had them. They were instantly called OP, badly balanced and ****.
Typical double standard
Cant wait for the DE DLC's with even more stolen civ/unit concepts

 

[Nomadophobia]

Well is not 20yo anymore 11 is brand new game, and new graphics and textures require more gpu. Hera said his graphic card wasn't good enough

Its not really GPU reliant, my GTX 960 barely had any load, the single core CPU usage though...

It's not a new game, Its the original base game from 1999 heavily modded. They didnt start from scratch, but it would have taken less time and been incredibly playable even on low end systems if they did.

I would say there's not a large increase in lag in terms of the general playerbase based on TG or not, 2v2s Id have 75% laggy games, 3v3/4v4 85/90%. Just takes one player with a not so ideal internet connection or not that great of a PC to cause lag, and that's the majority of players. Ive had so many 3-10fps games I can't even count. The large streamers or "content creators" as referred to were placed on a unique version of the beta, where they could only play VS eachother - they cherrypicked people with good PCs, good internet and are from first world countries for the most part to limit the majority of streams to show only the few good games, whereas when it's released you'll see what the other 97% of the beta sees with lag strident everywhere.