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Philippe le Bon said:
I don't give too much credit on that 2007-2010 post-Zone era. Things started to get a bit more serious since WCL 7 in 2011, because it was the first real big tournament since Zone GGed basically'.
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This isn't even true, Arbalet cup 4 and Brain Champion Cup 1,2,3, were all 1v1 tournaments that occurred after zone closed that had bigger prizepools than WCL7... which was a 3v3 4v4 tournament.
 
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Rayne said:
Not only this stuff, but in rated Hun wars (or even a few meso wars back then, but more Huns) back in the day he was pretty much invincible at one point. The only two names who could win a set vs Riut that I recall were Viper and Jordan. No one else could really touch him. There were other seriously strong players back then like Yo, Daut, and I think Chris who Riut seemed ahead of too. He was also a top 10 DMer as far as rating went I believe (during the time Viper and Jordan were also dominating DM), which maybe not many remember. Certainly lives up to legends tbh.
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Coming in 2013, I guess I've been either late to the party, either too busy to play AoE2 HD Black Forest team games sneaking triple barracks + mass Viking longswords to realize RiuT was a monster then.

Coz at that time I remembered that Viper was already the well-established numero uno.


EDIT: Btw **** meso/hunwhores, so boring always hated it, I'm glad AoE2 experts grew out of this
 
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Influenza said:
This isn't even true, Arbalet cup 4 and Brain Champion Cup 1,2,3, were all 1v1 tournaments that occurred after zone closed that had bigger prizepools than WCL7... which was a 3v3 4v4 tournament.
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The Brain Champion Cup #3

The Brain Champion Cup 3 (abbr. BCC3) is an Age of Empires II 1v1 tournament hosted by Legion Clan and sponsored by Canary.
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Arbalet Cup IV: Age of Empires II

Arbalet Cup 4 (abbr. AC4) is a tournament hosted by Legion Clan.
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The Legion Clan sponsor surely was generous. Thank you for the correction.

I was very misinformed about the importance of WCL 7 in the history of AoE2 tournaments then, I guess AoCZone and the players I spoke with back then liked to embellish some parts of the past more than others. 11
 
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Philippe le Bon said:
RiuT 3.png


It seems most of his individual successes are more concentrated around year 2010, many #1 places, where I wasn't around, so I didn't experience him at the top of his game. (cf picture)
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Man, is says he is active from 1970s. Give him some credit lol
 
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Man, he is active from 1970s. Give him some credit
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Losing hard two times against
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miguelaoe in 1970, now that's what I call a God-tier achievement :roflmao::roflmao:
 
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With that said, during the 2013-2017 TyRanT days, I considered talent and skill-wise:
Riut > BacT and F1Re, and by an important margin!

So there goes your consolation prize for you RiuT fans. Kappa
 
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Philippe le Bon said:
Coming in 2013, I guess I've been either late to the party, either too busy to play AoE2 HD Black Forest team games sneaking triple barracks + mass Viking longswords to realize RiuT was a monster then.

Coz at that time I remembered that Viper was already the well-established numero uno.


EDIT: Btw **** meso/hunwhores, so boring always hated it, I'm glad AoE2 experts grew out of this
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Hard to remember specific timeframes since AoE is not as well documented like Chess, but you are right that Viper was #1 overall back then. The only true rival imo that Viper had was Jordan back then (speaking across all settings). But Riut was I’d say nearly equally strong as Viper when it came to Hun wars. There were some seriously wild games even when it came to Aztecs too. Like one tournament game with Aztec drush fc where Riut lost like 3 gold vills (maybe even 5? forgot the amount) and kicked off gold vs Viper, but managed to pull through and later win the game. That takes seriously insane skill, maybe someone else knows the game I’m speaking of too. Probably one of the best games he ever played.
 
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Rayne said:
Hard to remember specific timeframes since AoE is not as well documented like Chess, but you are right that Viper was #1 overall back then. The only true rival imo that Viper had was Jordan back then (speaking across all settings). But Riut was I’d say nearly equally strong as Viper when it came to Hun wars. There were some seriously wild games even when it came to Aztecs too. Like one tournament game with Aztec drush fc where Riut lost like 3 gold vills (maybe even 5? forgot the amount) and kicked off gold vs Viper, but managed to pull through and later win the game. That takes seriously insane skill, maybe someone else knows the game I’m speaking of too. Probably one of the best games he ever played.
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I think you're talking about this game and yeah that was one of my favourite games of RiuT as well.
When Viper and JorDan were very dominant, RiuT was pretty much the only one who was able to consistently push them to the limit and win series against them, pretty clearly the number 3 at that time I'd say.
 
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nimanoe said:
I think you're talking about this game and yeah that was one of my favourite games of RiuT as well.
When Viper and JorDan were very dominant, RiuT was pretty much the only one who was able to consistently push them to the limit and win series against them, pretty clearly the number 3 at that time I'd say.
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Yeah, that’s the one! Coming back from what happened at 9:40 or with all the vills chasing the xbow (even over next few minutes) is pretty crazy vs Viper.
 
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Aoe4 is like Aoe3, if you take away the hype after the worldwide rts drought and the hope for big prize pools for pro players.
 
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Unpopular opinion: Liereyy is actually a macro player.
 
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Meso civs need a gold-free raiding unit in late game. All the non-meso civs can easily go hussar, light Calvary or even scouts as long as they can mass farms in late game, but the meso civs only got eagles that run fast, but eagles are not cheap when there is no gold left.
 
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Viper is currently in his best form since a long time (maybe since early 2020). He will win KotD4 convincingly

Vs saymyname he was just trolling like in the old days (unpopular opinion).
 
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TopperHarley said:
Viper is currently in his best form since a long time (maybe since early 2020). He will win KotD4 convincingly

Vs saymyname he was just trolling like in the old days (unpopular opinion).
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Unless you go back and watch the videos to see a red viper angry, he even removed his wrist band and finger protection, no one gets that serious if he was trolling before, yellow(saymyname) pushed viper to his maximum level with his fwd despite the huge skill difference cause the maps aren't great to defend.

Forwarding viper has been quite effective since previous kotd, the guys after yellow haven't pushed the snake, they play his game with micro and macro from their own bases, but now that mr yo is out i don't see anyone else putting the same pressure to him, the final could be lierey and him competing for micro/macro and execution sadly no fwd.
 
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"2k-2k1 players" sounds convoluted and contrived, players aren't numbers ;
"Semi-pros" sounds decent, better than the latter for sure ;
"Aspiring experts" sounds great, and paints an accurate picture ;
But "Elite noobs" sounds even better.
 
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I want to enable Auto-queuing.
This will be a game changer that bridges another big gap between the pro and the noobs: similar to auto farming, if we can enable auto-queuing in a building, we can let it train military/villagers continuously. Taking villagers as an example, a human may queue up more villagers than needed when he/she pays attention, but forgets to train any villagers when they are focusing on the battle. This auto-queuing will enhance the productivity of TC and military buildings significantly, especially in booming or massing trashes. It not only removes the burden of paying attention to your TC or your military buildings, but also, most importantly, uses the resources very effectively, because it won't queue up more than 1 unit at a time. Leaving you a lot of room to balance your economy. Players can shift their focus on other macro and micro operations that are more fun to execute.

But I guess this is a change that most seasoned player don't want :frown:
 
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USC_kiky said:
I want to enable Auto-queuing.
This will be a game changer that bridges another big gap between the pro and the noobs: similar to auto farming, if we can enable auto-queuing in a building, we can let it train military/villagers continuously. Taking villagers as an example, a human may queue up more than villagers than needed when he/she pays attention, but forgets to train any villagers when they are focusing on the battle. This auto-queuing will enhance the productivity of TC and military buildings significantly, especially in booming or massing trashes. It not only removes the burden of paying attention to your TC or your military buildings, but also, most importantly, uses the resources very effectively, because it won't queue up more than 1 unit at a time. Leaving you a lot of room to balance your economy. Players can shift their focus on other macro and micro operations that are more fun to execute.

But I guess this is a change that most seasoned player don't want :frown:
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I stopped reading after first sentence.... :@
 
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USC_kiky said:
I want to enable Auto-queuing.
This will be a game changer that bridges another big gap between the pro and the noobs: similar to auto farming, if we can enable auto-queuing in a building, we can let it train military/villagers continuously. Taking villagers as an example, a human may queue up more villagers than needed when he/she pays attention, but forgets to train any villagers when they are focusing on the battle. This auto-queuing will enhance the productivity of TC and military buildings significantly, especially in booming or massing trashes. It not only removes the burden of paying attention to your TC or your military buildings, but also, most importantly, uses the resources very effectively, because it won't queue up more than 1 unit at a time. Leaving you a lot of room to balance your economy. Players can shift their focus on other macro and micro operations that are more fun to execute.

But I guess this is a change that most seasoned player don't want :frown:
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I'm 1200 and I think auto queing it's a really bad idea. A reason why i'm 1200 and not, let's say, 1500, it's because I idle my TC a lot. and sometimes my military buildings aswell. And that's okey.

Constant production is a key factor of the game. it should not go away
 
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i_no_english said:
I stopped reading after first sentence.... :@
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Thanks for typing more than what you read then :smile:
 
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Lord_patito said:
I'm 1200 and I think auto queing it's a really bad idea. A reason why i'm 1200 and not, let's say, 1500, it's because I idle my TC a lot. and sometimes my military buildings aswell. And that's okey.

Constant production is a key factor of the game. it should not go away
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Personally, I like the feeling of pressing hotkeys quickly to queue up villagers in early games or trashes in late games as well. Those actions boost my APM and give me the feeling of a "pro". And I totally understand that the idle TC time is a key factor that distinguishes seasoned players from noobs, and this change will reduce the bar of executing build orders.

However, as a viewer, I wonder if auto-queuing is available, will the pros have more time to develop more interesting strategies in this game and make it more entertaining to watch? When you watch a streamer casting a game, they rarely show you how the players switch between buildings to queue up military units or villagers. Instead, it's mostly the micro/macro that fascinates the viewers. My two cents.
 
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USC_kiky said:
I want to enable Auto-queuing.
This will be a game changer that bridges another big gap between the pro and the noobs: similar to auto farming, if we can enable auto-queuing in a building, we can let it train military/villagers continuously. Taking villagers as an example, a human may queue up more villagers than needed when he/she pays attention, but forgets to train any villagers when they are focusing on the battle. This auto-queuing will enhance the productivity of TC and military buildings significantly, especially in booming or massing trashes. It not only removes the burden of paying attention to your TC or your military buildings, but also, most importantly, uses the resources very effectively, because it won't queue up more than 1 unit at a time. Leaving you a lot of room to balance your economy. Players can shift their focus on other macro and micro operations that are more fun to execute.

But I guess this is a change that most seasoned player don't want :frown:
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AUTO MICRO AUTO MACRO AUTO EVERYTHING
 
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Despite the negative general view, I am convinced MPVs (also known as minivans) are the absolute coolest type of cars, just below true sport cars and supercars.
The space aboard is golden. Which is funny because I despise almost all SUVs lol

They're small enough not to attract attention and get through every parking lot, yet spacious enough you can roadtrip in them, or even live in one if you want to stretch it to the extreme:

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My favourite MPV is probably the Renault Grand Espace III, although they are many more awesome ones!

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Aoe 4 doesn't have a lot of potential.
 
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Aoe 4 doesn't have a lot of potential.
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This is not an unpopular opinion.
 
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This is not an unpopular opinion.
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Depends on platform, on Reddit it is. On Nili's mind, it is.
 
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