WCL7 GroupC Round5 poZ B vs Immortals

[poZ_tobi]

We only played 1 game, FR.

Spoiler

poZ B 1:0 Immortals

The admin request by poZ B has been denied.

Immortals receive a Penalty Point for blackmailing the Tournament's organisors and leaving without clarifying the situation with the opposing team.

poZ B receive a Penalty Point for poor sportsmanship and cowardly attempts to get an admin win without having to play.

The first map that was played counts, the rest of the match must be rescheduled. Further arguments and insults will only lead to further punishment.

Start scheduling

We agreed to change the map order without previous notice by the Immortals because their best team wasn't online, this not only shows sportsmanship but also that we wanted to play these games.

After they left we followed the tournament's rules and requested for a admin win, their operator called me a liar so I had to defend myself over and over for the last 4 days until you came up with a decision, I wasn't trying hard to get a admin win I just wanted you to get the facts straight.

Lastly, how exactly are we the cowards in this story, we won the first game and right after we resumed two of their players had to leave.

If we are getting a penalty point for sportsmanship and following the tournament's rules, not only have you made the wrong decision but you've insulted us in the process.

I'm afraid this is the last game we're providing WCL7, enjoy.

 

[RoR_BzH]

:shock:

 

[MorreDiabo]

They say it was denied but dont even can say why....
How the hell this AW wasnt given to poZ B who showed up to play but the other team couldnt? If any team cant make the scheduled games = free right to ask AW

This is the first time I see this in a tournament. Atleast they had the genuine right to ask for AW how can they be punished for it lol. Also I've been reading all that schedule topic to me its pretty obvious that immortals wanted to play with better team.

Tthese penality points are just absurd too , the penality for immortals just NULLIFY the penality for poZ B.

Pitty that you guys want to leave league now...it will mess things even more

 

[_LuG_]

A penalty point for asking admin win, that's a bit of a joke. You guys have to relies that taking 5+ hours out of ur life to play a computer game is a big thing. Its not like nipping on to play a few games here and there, You need the full set of time free. So when you do come on and the other guys haven't showed up or not had right players for whatever reason valid or not the other team should be able to take admin win without being judged cowardly. Fair enough in the grand finals make them play when money is being decided but not in group stage.

 

[denny_different]

bad move, you're gonna get at least like 5 penalty points for dropping out

 

[rhap]

deathcubek is so full of right that don't worth comment anything more, just stupid decision..

 

[DaVe]

Age of Empires II: The Age of Penalty Points.

 

[DJ_Argenta_]

I'm afraid this is the last game we're providing WCL7, enjoy.

Fair enough, PP for AW request.. WTF, Admins have been doing a great work, they have a real commitment with the tourney but they exceed sometimes with passionate deccisions

 

[ralber]

"Immortals receive a Penalty Point for blackmailing the Tournament's organisors"

11111 what did they do?, please share it with us!
thugs!

 

[amazingcalvin]

Which team was at fault needs to be investigated.. But that admin has broken the code of conduct by calling PoZ B as cowards.. any player would get infuriated over this.. admins need to set examples of good conduct.. only then they will have the right to punish those who flout the rules.. also, the statement saying that further arguments will lead to more penalty just stifles the voice of the teams in case they had a genuine point to make..

 

[CondoM]

FaR would have a field day with this. I don't know the details but this just looks terrible and totally unprofessional.

 

[rox_rook]

PoZ's players are very nice, it's hard to believe they need to do something like that to get AW. Please do some more investigation before announcing.

 

[PL_Spioch]

my oh my.. this gonna be a long topic..

 

[Marco]

WTF is this blackmailing part? I`m also curious.. 11

IT`S A JOKE YOU MAKE A POST LIKE THIS DEFENDING YOURSELF AND SAYING A BUNCHE OF LIES.
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO STARTED CALLING US LIERS. ALL WE WANTED IS TO GET THE GAMES DONE, BUT YOU INSIST IN SAYING THAT YOU JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN AND PLAY IN THIS TOURNMENT, BUT YOU NEVER GAVE US A DAMM CHANCE DO RESCHEDULE THESE GAMES JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT MAD. WE ARE NOT GETTING OUR BEST TEAM TO PLAY FOR SINCE OUR MAIN MEMBERS ARE ON VACATION/HAVING PERSONAL TROUBLE. SO DON`T ****ING USE THAT STUPID EXCUSE. WE JUST WANT TO PLAY THE ****ING GAMES AND GIVE PEOPLE NICE RECORDS, BUT FOR SOME STUPID REASON YOU TRYING TO GET THIS STUPID AW. NICE JOB BY MAKING IT PUBLIC AND LOOK LIKE WE ARE "THE WRONG ONES" (JUST REMEMBER THAT WE JUST WANT TO PLAY THE ****ING GAMES, WHATS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT?)

 

[RoR_BzH]

you are the wrong ones

oh wait, it's not about you, it's about the immortal players on the immortal roster, and you are not there, amazing

 

[Vague]

what i wanna know is how was this, to put it frankly ridiculous descision made, nothing is even mentioned in the council forum and for such a harsh decision id like to think all the admins come to some sort of conclusion. also whether right or not, the way the decision was announced was so far beyond ******ed it blows my mind. seriously you announced it in a way that made it seem like you were annoyed you had to do your job as admin and make a descision.
If being an admin and sorting out problems like this one is too much for some admins then they should have never accepted the responsibility in the first place. complete and utter shambles.

 

[TheViper]

Chill out Marco, we can all read the normal text size.

Anyways, this case seems like a whole bunch of misunderstandings and unnecessary troubles.
Immortals should have been more clear and given notice of them might not being able to play all games at the scheduled time earlier, and poz b should have been more open to rescheduling imo, as immortals seems to have their reasons. The rest of the attacking eachother is just unnecessary..

Penalty points doesn't seem right..

 

[Vague]

for all those asking about the blackmail

Just so you know, I'm withdrawing my team from WCL if we get an AL for this. This is a complete joke.

APPARENTLY this is blackmail. you coulda gone and asked smarterchild what to do and u would have ended up with a better outcome.

 

[swindt]

Failing to Request AW(even with the reason as what the admin said) doesn't deserve a PP. Admin could just deny it. I think this is wrong decision.

As for the scheduling, immortals didn't make it clear that they cannot play all the games. I think immortals should know that before if they cannot do that..

But I agree with Viper that poZ B can be more open mind to play the rest of the game as AOC is a game only..

No need to anger like this.

 

[_Lyla_]

You've got to love how poZ B are getting treat.

They all agree to supply the players at a time that was suitable to both, clearing their lives. Immortal's end up not being able provide what they agreed to. Leaving two options (Entirely decided by those who did provide what was agreed to) ; Reschedule or AW one ballsy, one not. Neither less right that the other. PoZ take AW.

Forget all the belittling talk and the pulling in of an Ex-Immortal member to get their way. Here was the peach for me ;

Just so you know, I'm withdrawing my team from WCL if we get an AL for this. This is a complete joke.

Keep in mind, this guy is leading Immortals for WCL, so is in effect the embodiment/face of the clan. Now for pages after this, I didn't hear another Immortal member man-up (Even logical _Ares_ Ignore's it, in-favour of playing the friendship card to gain their way), to remove this comment for the clan, let alone challenge it. That is a state of agreeance, in my book.

Motto for poZ ; Act like a child , throw your toys out the pram, bring in your pack of stirrers, question the maturity and manhood of anyone who doesn't bend to your will, slap in a dollop of ex-clan and now council member to sweeten things up. End up no worse off than the clan who does all things by the book.

End result of all this ; A PP (..), more time wasted to schedule, more of their life needing to be put on hold to play the same games.

Admins ; Don't be idiotic, they played by your rules , until they posted the games after your decision. Any other team would get the AW, but a threat from a top team pulling out changes everything? Bollocks does it, your punishing the good guys, for doing the right thing and honouring the childish behaviour of Immortals, let them go (Would rather keep the high standing in my mind of that clan, than see any more of their true essence).

 

[Spartacus]

What on un-holy middle earth is happening here.

 

[pineappleexpress]

pussys, this is just a game.
So grab some balls and play the rest of the games and stop crying like kiddies

 

[Jeris]

We want gg , not seeing flaming wars

 

[BuzZ_Quiller]

What on un-holy middle earth is happening here.

PoZ B vs Immortals, Immortals has no players, PoZ B has no patience.

 

[[wW]StrongMan_]

I know Im supposed to be supporting the flame war here, but what the hell. This TI game was just epic with the transports failing one after the other! 11