Ultrafong said:Voobly should focus on it's client
My post was a direct answer to Ultrafong's post saying Voobly should concentrate on improving its client and why I think it will not happen. I'm not deflecting on Elusive when it comes to this streaming policy, which I do not agree with and has nothing to do with what was in place during Taff's time. The fact that Genette wanted to have this policy in place has actually always been a big contention point between him and Taff.
Ironically, Taff's streaming policy finds a nice parallel these days with...ECG's streaming policy- 1 channel streams everything, channels streaming in other languages are allowed too! Which you by the way, all of a sudden, seem to be a big fan of kw1k!
How does one contact elusive?
I am not sure how you got the impression that I support EGC's (balance patch event) streaming policy. Its horrible
In case you were referring to EscapeAoe events, the main difference there is that Escape guys are putting their own money + major sponsorship(1 event, Microsoft)
Don't confuse my support of streaming policy with creating some threads on reddit about an event. I make threads/topics when the event excites me because I like the game and highlevel gameplays. I even made posts about WiC, WSVG events even though I was never really a big fan of how Taff, you guys were doing things.
How does one contact elusive?
You contact chris and he passes it on
http://www.voobly.com/forum/thread/263351
Voobly.com may allow non-commercial streamers to broadcast in Voobly.com-hosted tournaments, sweepstakes, or other events.
(if anyone from Voobly is reading this, please correct me)
(if anyone from Voobly is reading this, please correct me)
they wont. They have strict rules for their staff only to discuss these matters in their own forums.
This reads fine except for the glaring lack of a definition what separates a commercial streamer from a non-commercial one. I'd think running a youtube channel can be considered commercial, as well as running a Loots operation, but I don't see how accepting donations can be considered commercial activity?
Commercial streamers are streamers working for company or who have contracts with another company and that are getting paid (revenue sharing) for streaming games on their own channel, for example Twitch, YouTube and their affiliated partners or other third-party companies.
just as a thought exercise (please no blamegame) can we try listing some well known streamers and see how they fall in these categories?
I'm pretty sure Nili can be categorized as non-commercial and Zero as commercial (Memb as well mostly due to loots) but there's a big gray zone in the middle that can't be ignored and it seems the Voobly team is not really prioritizing giving clear definitions of the key terms of their policy. (if anyone from Voobly is reading this, please correct me)
Overprotection is a sure sign Voobly freaking out a little and perhaps not doing as great as many might think.
Clemensor said:No.
It comes more from the perspective of: We don't want others (streamers) to profit of our (all the voluntary staff keeping things running) work
Fair do's, but that's completely counter productive to your overall goal of "Voobly being awesome" then.
You would be far better off actively assisting streamers hosting events using Voobly instead of adding restrictions, or you will just end up pushing players onto HD.
Having much greater access and a sense of "Voobly loves AoE players" would/should of led to continued increase in HD players coming to voobly as a result of watchign streams instead of the other way round after restrictions and stipulations put in place.
I think you're overreactingThe irony along the rules is quite funny. :roll:
Because, especially due "commercial" streams, just recently voobly got a new all time high of users. And now on the top of their success they limit the source. Great way to go voobly!