Qualifier brackets are now out: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...GWX2LF5k0yOjAUagW0p0VVOLjM/edit#gid=491106280
Main event brackets: TBD
Rip. Thing is if you make signups for n teams, the n+1 will always be frustrated no matter what. We already have a few people pulling all nighters to make the event happen so extending the qualifiers to 32 teams was never an option.Immortals not making the cut
It's eight more series to schedule within the timeframe we've got, 8 more series to cast, meaning at least two more days of casting, it's two more sets of matchup graphics to be made, everything has to have a deadline that's at least two days earlier... I could go on for a while.It requires same period of time and you get 8 extra teams.
1. What constitutes a "substitute"? This is not an easy question to answer.I kinda think that there is a case for not considering substitute player's rating if they are the lowest rated (both elo and tourney elo) in the team.
Eg: Freakin team not making it
I'm sorry but your response means you are not considering the problem from the organizer's perspective. By expanding this qualifier by 8 teams, you are actively hurting the other 24. This is an international event with timezones clashing and most of the players not being full time aoe2 pros and having other responsibilities (school, work, family...), claiming that scheduling doesn't require any work from the admins is straight up wrong.I agree the rules are clear and its fully the players responsibility.
But it still makes sense to me to have different rules for the next tournament. Filling up to 32 teams is a no brainer. Regarding scheduling, it falls on the team, you shouldn't take on extra work because of it. You can also skip streaming every match of round 1. This would be normal.
Hopefully you can consider the feedback for future tournaments. You had a lot of good teams not make the cut which is a shame. Anyway you're doing an awesome job this one, I'm sure it will be a great success.
I kind of think that we can look at it in a different way. Let's say this 3rd player (who has the lowest rating) is crazy good at arabia and bad at every other maps. Then while this 3rd player drags the average team rating down, the team formed by these 3 players really is better than the team formed by only the 2 players with higher ratings. The point is: this 3rd player should always give something more to the team and make the team better. In this regard, it makes more sense to average the ratings of the 2 players with higher ratings.1. What constitutes a "substitute"? This is not an easy question to answer.
2. If the subsitute doesn't play in any matches, why sign them up in the first place? For emergency situations? Then what constitutes an emergency? And if they do play, there is a case to be made for considering their rating.
I don't think there is a simple solution - we made an executive decision to count the rating of all three players.
One thing that could be improved upon tho - and thanks for bringing that up - is to not refer to the 3rd player as a substitute. As the current system stands, it's just teams of 2-3 active players, who you can freely swap in and out between maps. I'll keep it in mind for future events and make sure to word the signups properly (or give feedback to whoever writes the post).