yeah thats pretty sad imoGood advertisement to show that you're very immature though.
yeah thats pretty sad imoGood advertisement to show that you're very immature though.
To be clear i am not a fan of Hoang style and I really hope I don't find him in queue, but you can't consider laming and unpausing on the same level. Just to give you an example, in high tier tournaments you can't unpause, but you usually can lame. I can understand the frustration you have when you get constantly lamed, but this doesn't give you the permission to unpause the game when the opponent has some real life issues. About the flaming I can't say much since I am the first to do that when the opponent lames or plays in a "socotra" style with forward vills, towers ecc.Well not to be devil's advocate, to unpause game is unsportmanship, however we all have bit different understanding about the game. As I personally take laming kind of "I'm a noob and can't win in even game" and at same time whenever dude lamers boar(sheeps is w/e) is like "I don't care about good game, all I care is puntos" so is like zero respect given for a game, so not sure if player who lames every time supposed to get much respect. And again, there will be tons of people who will say "but it's part of the game", well yeah, shitty part, which often decides a game and I can't stop anyone from doing it, but then do not cry that people who are against it give zero respect to you.
If you saw the vod, you could see that dragon wrote 14 and waited for ~30 secs before unpausing. 30 secs without a "sry 2 mins" is justifiable area for unpausingTo be clear i am not a fan of Hoang style and I really hope I don't find him in queue, but you can't consider laming and unpausing on the same level. Just to give you an example, in high tier tournaments you can't unpause, but you usually can lame. I can understand the frustration you have when you get constantly lamed, but this doesn't give you the permission to unpause the game when the opponent has some real life issues. About the flaming I can't say much since I am the first to do that when the opponent lames or plays in a "socotra" style with forward vills, towers ecc.
sry that was the wrong vodIf you saw the vod, you could see that dragon wrote 14 and waited for ~30 secs before unpausing. 30 secs without a "sry 2 mins" is justifiable area for unpausing
This will actually be interesting. Someone make it happen! 11stop blaming
dragon vs hoang bo21 mongols war . let go
Not this Memb King_Boo drama again, please dont play ladder if you follow this thought process30 secs without a "sry 2 mins" is justifiable area for unpausing
hi mum, I made it onto aoezoneNot this Memb King_Boo drama again, please dont play ladder if you follow this thought process
You're also not allowed to pause for just any reason.To be clear i am not a fan of Hoang style and I really hope I don't find him in queue, but you can't consider laming and unpausing on the same level. Just to give you an example, in high tier tournaments you can't unpause, but you usually can lame. I can understand the frustration you have when you get constantly lamed, but this doesn't give you the permission to unpause the game when the opponent has some real life issues. About the flaming I can't say much since I am the first to do that when the opponent lames or plays in a "socotra" style with forward vills, towers ecc.
if someone pauses, he/she should say how long. Anything more than 30sec real time needs a response to justify the pause. If you need a 2 min pause, request or resign.Not this Memb King_Boo drama again, please dont play ladder if you follow this thought process
Maybe not the same level, but exactly same style. Do not bring tournament manners/games here, that has nothing to do with it. There are proper rules which can be enforced super easily and money is involved there, so people tryhard and do everything they can withing rules(some outside them too) to win and is not really about having great games, but about winning there. We are talking about ladder. Where people should want to improve and get higher rating, but should also want to have good games. Also again, this is not a tournament game, this behaviour is not nice and shouldn't be as an example, but so what, he lost some elo, not a tragedy.To be clear i am not a fan of Hoang style and I really hope I don't find him in queue, but you can't consider laming and unpausing on the same level. Just to give you an example, in high tier tournaments you can't unpause, but you usually can lame.
sadly when someone is focused on gaining elo, any loss feels hard to digest.Maybe not the same level, but exactly same style. Do not bring tournament manners/games here, that has nothing to do with it. There are proper rules which can be enforced super easily and money is involved there, so people tryhard and do everything they can withing rules(some outside them too) to win and is not really about having great games, but about winning there. We are talking about ladder. Where people should want to improve and get higher rating, but should also want to have good games. Also again, this is not a tournament game, this behaviour is not nice and shouldn't be as an example, but so what, he lost some elo, not a tragedy.
Laming is banned in many high tier tournaments, also pretty sure pausing has been banned in some too, this is a terrible example 11Just to give you an example, in high tier tournaments you can't unpause, but you usually can lame.
This was beautiful.Today is a sad day for all aoe
How can my favourite lovely game go to this state so quickly
I woke up this morning thinking today is a good day to play some age
now I don't know what to think
maybe waking up tomorrow will bring a new day, a new start to aoe for all fan around world
maybe we be able to que and pause when want, talk to opponent how treated in turn
Maybe one day it wont matter whether we leave a game or not because ladder game are irrelevant
maybe if opponent doesn't want the pause we respect that continue on go next without having 3rd party gangs posting on some billboard
maybe just maybe
lets go get a gg in before dinner
What's the highest tier tournament in which laming was b&? And pausing?Laming is banned in many high tier tournaments, also pretty sure pausing has been banned in some too, this is a terrible example 11
Laming is banned in many high tier tournaments, also pretty sure pausing has been banned in some too, this is a terrible example 11
Well I'm pretty sure if we are talking about ladder majority conciders laming as a bad manner/thing. If we are talking about tournaments there probably variety of opinions is wider. However there have been tournaments against laming, even against laming sheeps, so no, in those tournament's it is against the rules. And if it should be against rules or not it seems me and you won't agree on it, however maybe that's why it is good that some tournaments allow it and some not, so we can compare games and experience.Laming is not against the rules and shouldn't be.
Well I'm pretty sure if we are talking about ladder majority conciders laming as a bad manner/thing. If we are talking about tournaments there probably variety of opinions is wider. However there have been tournaments against laming, even against laming sheeps, so no, in those tournament's it is against the rules. And if it should be against rules or not it seems me and you won't agree on it, however maybe that's why it is good that some tournaments allow it and some not, so we can compare games and experience.
oh nice, I forgot we can link Dramas togetherI am enjoying the discussions but frankly, this drama seems blown way out of proportion for how small it is. Hoang has been a part of way more toxicity than this (both give and take) by many many players. I remember Villese called him a cancer on live stream. I remember heated arguments with many others as well. Hoang didn't seem keen on creating a post about reporting Villese or others then.
I presume there's more to it than just what seems at the surface. Dragonstar made a post about some Vietnamese players indulging in suspicious activities in a separate topic about Songsong. I wonder if Hoang was upset because of that and wanted to get back. Otherwise, don't see any way this warranted so much drama.
You must be fun in tgs when your opponents get muted from the start. Have a bit more faith in people please, you will find gaming a better place.if someone pauses, he/she should say how long. Anything more than 30sec real time needs a response to justify the pause. If you need a 2 min pause, request or resign.
S-tier... off the top of my head laming was banned in NAC 3 and pausing for non technical reasons was banned in the most recent BOAWhat's the highest tier tournament in which laming was b&? And pausing?