What are your thoughts on playing the ai's for improvement vs human players?
well, i think playing vs them can give you some improvement in general playing skills, and mostly things like the smartest way to build defenses, or offensive defenses, like i do a lot. Ways to improve map control, like team-walling, forward building, boxing in your castles. Or maybe that is just my way i make me feel safe.
I think the best thing about AI is that you never have to wait for game, you can play and abuse it countless times, can try and experiment things you are not sure about in human vs human games. This way you can expand your trick box.
But, the downside is, an AI is rarely situation aware, which makes it actually quite easy to fool. The worst about playing vs AI is that you get used to this blindness, which a human does not have.
It is a punching bag, it can swing back at you, but will not outsmart you (i hope). It gives you time to perfect your basics: economy, builds, multitasking, offensive approach, defense vs massive rushes, unit control in battles, or do all the same time. But it will not (yet) replace the smart counters, go-arounds and micro a human does.
And off course, you can use it to train specific situations, like this 3 TC start map i played yesterday. My friend heartless thought it would be a tough game and started making defenses. I thought rams could help us out.
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PREGAME CHAT<Brainless> gl hf<Heartless> gl hfINGAME CHAT[00:00:00] <RandomAI> Strength: 9/10[00:00:00] <RandomAI> Slings from: No[00:00:00] <RandomAI> Sling to: No[00:00:00] <RandomAI> Special help rules: No[00:00:00] <RandomAI> AI detected: Promi[00:00:00] <RandomAI> Special help rules: No[00:00:00] <RandomAI> Strength: 9/10[00:00:00] <RandomAI> Slings from: No[00:00:00] <RandomAI> Sling to: No[00:00:00] <RandomAI> AI detected: Promi[00:00:10] <RandomAI> gl hf[00:00:10] <RandomAI> gl hf[00:00:10] <RandomAI> gl hf[00:00:15] <RandomAI> I'm playing as the japanese.[00:00:19] <Brainless> 11[00:00:20] <RandomAI> TRiBaL, let's show them what real warriors look like![00:00:41] <RandomAI> Promi 1.55c[00:00:41] <RandomAI> Promi 1.55c[00:00:42] <RandomAI> Promi 1.55c[00:00:55] <Heartless> wtffff[00:01:06] <RandomAI> I will attempt to boom.[00:01:07] <Brainless> china[00:01:14] <Heartless> 11[00:01:18] <Heartless> china too[00:01:18] <Brainless> pop 21[00:01:19] <Heartless> wtf[00:01:22] <Heartless> 11[00:01:25] <Brainless> ???[00:01:31] <Heartless> too many vills[00:01:35] <Brainless> 1[00:03:25] <Heartless> sar[00:10:14] <RandomAI> I am advancing to the Feudal Age.[00:10:15] <RandomAI> Please send me some food.[00:10:15] <RandomAI> Please send me some food for villagers.[00:11:10] <Brainless> hmm[00:11:15] <Brainless> what about mass rams?[00:11:47] <Heartless> hmmm[00:11:50] <Heartless> may work[00:13:35] <RandomAI> Please send me some food.[00:13:35] <RandomAI> Please send me some wood.[00:13:53] <RandomAI> p[00:13:53] <RandomAI> p[00:15:59] <RandomAI> y flank is player 1[00:16:05] <RandomAI> Please send me some food.[00:16:54] <RandomAI> p[00:16:54] <RandomAI> 'll focus on raiding player 8 .[00:16:54] <RandomAI> 'm going 2 stables[00:16:55] <RandomAI> p[00:17:50] <RandomAI> I am advancing to the Castle Age.[00:18:36] <RandomAI> Please send me some food.[00:18:41] <Heartless> lol[00:20:55] <RandomAI> p[00:20:56] <RandomAI> p[00:21:06] <RandomAI> Please send me some wood.[00:21:39] <RandomAI> ttempting to raid gold here 166[00:21:54] <RandomAI> I wont train villagers anymore until i have clicked imp[00:23:36] <RandomAI> Please send me some gold.[00:23:36] <RandomAI> Please send me some wood.[00:23:38] <RandomAI> I am advancing to the Imperial Age.[00:24:06] <RandomAI> hat's up?[00:24:06] <RandomAI> hat's up?[00:26:16] <RandomAI> Please send me some wood.[00:26:45] <Heartless> leave something for me[00:26:46] <Heartless> 11[00:26:58] <Brainless> 11[00:27:21] <Brainless> 7[00:27:27] <Brainless> beautiful[00:28:46] <RandomAI> Please send me some wood.[00:30:50] <RandomAI> GG[00:30:51] <RandomAI> GG[00:30:51] * RandomAI resigned[00:30:54] <RandomAI> gg[00:31:22] <RandomAI> Please send me some wood.[00:33:53] <RandomAI> Please send me some wood.[00:36:23] <RandomAI> Please send me some gold.[00:38:53] <RandomAI> Please send me some gold.[00:38:53] <RandomAI> Please send me some food.[00:40:31] <Brainless> 7[00:40:40] <Heartless> 11[00:43:20] <RandomAI> gg[00:43:23] <Brainless> GG[00:43:23] <RandomAI> gg[00:43:27] * RandomAI resigned[00:43:27] <Heartless> gg[00:45:19] <RandomAI> gg wp[00:45:25] <Heartless> 7[00:45:25] * RandomAI resigned
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Or you could just wait until next version (never).[00:28:23] <RandomAI> r: You're not getting any help, noob. Or you could just wait until next version (never).[00:28:31] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:28:32] <Brainless> 222[00:28:33] <RandomAI> m: You're not getting any help, noob. Or you could just wait until next version (never).[00:28:33] <RandomAI> r: You're not getting any help, noob. Or you could just wait until next version (never).[00:28:36] <RandomAI> m: Patrolling to point[00:28:37] <RandomAI> ES[00:28:48] <RandomAI> m: Patrolling to point[00:29:11] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:29:51] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:30:31] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:31:00] <Heartless> 31[00:31:12] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:31:25] <Brainless> wall[00:31:29] <RandomAI> m: Patrolling to point[00:31:32] <Brainless> wall here[00:31:35] <Brainless> quick[00:31:41] <Brainless> flank is dead[00:31:52] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:31:54] <RandomAI> m: Patrolling to point[00:31:56] <Heartless> wtf?[00:32:07] <RandomAI> m: Patrolling to point[00:32:32] <RandomAI> m: I could really do with some help here.[00:32:32] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:32:45] <RandomAI> estroy tc[00:32:45] <RandomAI> estroy tc[00:32:46] <RandomAI> estroy 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<RandomAI> m: I could really do with some help here.[00:37:14] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:39:08] <Heartless> ?[00:39:16] <Brainless> some ships there[00:40:32] <Brainless> 1[00:40:35] <Brainless> i will treb it[00:40:39] <Heartless> ok[00:41:07] <Heartless> coming[00:41:16] <RandomAI> m: I could really do with some help here.[00:41:57] <RandomAI> m: I could really do with some help here.[00:42:47] <Brainless> 9[00:42:49] <Brainless> gb[00:45:14] <Heartless> hussers[00:46:08] <RandomAI> r: up[00:46:08] <RandomAI> r: up[00:46:38] <RandomAI> m: I could really do with some help here.[00:47:18] <RandomAI> m: I could really do with some help here.[00:47:59] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:48:39] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:48:39] <RandomAI> m: I could really do with some help here.[00:49:19] <RandomAI> m: I could really do with some help here.[00:49:19] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:50:00] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:50:32] <Heartless> 2[00:50:32] <Heartless> 2[00:50:33] <Heartless> 2[00:50:33] <Heartless> 2[00:50:40] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:51:20] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:51:56] <Heartless> 11[00:52:01] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:52:03] <Heartless> they think they can hit and run[00:52:05] <Heartless> fuuu[00:52:41] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:53:21] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:53:42] <RandomAI> m: up[00:53:43] <RandomAI> m: up[00:54:02] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:56:48] <Brainless> 11[00:56:53] <Brainless> forgot about them[00:56:53] <Heartless> 1[00:56:57] <Heartless> 4[00:57:23] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:58:04] <RandomAI> r: I could really do with some help here.[00:58:44] <RandomAI> m: Let's not lag now![00:58:44] 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