Some help regarding "new civs" (post aoc i guess)

May 21, 2010
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Hi. Maybe some of you charitable souls can help me out. Been playing since the game got out but just now got to play aok and aoc civs, meaning berbers, malays, incas, etc are new to me. I am familiar with strats and stuff. I'm interested in 2 things:

1) Is there a place/document/link where i can see what would be the ideal 3/4 unit combo in post imperial for the new civs?

Something like
Mongol: mangu/rams/hussar
Maya: plums/rams/halbs/ew
Spanish: Palas/Rams/Conq/(maybe bbt)
but for the "new" civs. Some are not straightforward, i know, just asking for rough guide, nothing very specific.a

I know i will eventually learn them by trial and error or watching recs/streams, just trying to speed up the learning curve. A quick guide will probably help. I am asking post-imp as the rest i can more or less deal with already. I just hate having to check the tech tree for a civ in the middle of a game.

I tried the one at steam but, for instance, they label berbers as a cav civ but they don't have the pala upgrade which is kinda counterintuitive (i'm sure there's perfectly reasonable explanation, like a UU or something. I am aware of my ignorance at this point, hence my questions!).

2) Any big changes i should be aware of? Other than new civs, what would you say are the biggest 3/5/10 (?) changes. Disregard minor ones.

Thanks in advance people.
 

AustriaDeathcounter

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I just hate having to check the tech tree for a civ in the middle of a game.
Why, just pause?
The tech tree IS the Key, if you read the tech tree you know what to go for and not what to go for, take 1-2 real minutes time and see the tech tree, most / almost all opponents respect that and its very inpolite to resume a game without the consent of the person who paused. And thats an unwritten rule the community (atleast in Medieval Siege Lobby) obeyed (guessing) 97% of the time. There is seriously nothing wrong with pausing, just write a reason (you can lie and say"sry call", or "need to see tech tree pls") and people will understand, if some barbarian resumes, your teammates or even enemy team will pause for you (from my expierence) Heck, sometimes i even pause, open google and see the unique unit in the aoc wiki, what hidden bonuses/armor it has and if its good value. But overall going UU in WK is never wrong, as there are only super strong UU's with the new civs, same goes with battle elephants if you have them.
Alternatively you can also install this mod: https://www.voobly.com/gamemods/mod/438/Pro-Mod (from what i know it works with WK, but not sure yet, or this handy mod: https://www.voobly.com/gamemods/mod/942/Tech-Tree-Interface---1920-x-1080
Unless you are on HD, then I feel sorry for you
 
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NetherlandsiViktorius

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Some really big changes:
  • Water meta got changed completely with the addition of feudal age fires and demoes
  • Addition of stable units called Battle Elephants for a couple of civs, somewhere between a knight and a persian war elephant. It's a really strong unit
  • Camels dont die massively vs castles anymore
  • Three civs have as teambonus that you can create a special unit in one of the military buildings (italians --> condotierro, vietnamese --> imp skirm, berber --> genitour (skirm on a horse))
 
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Why, just pause?
The tech tree IS the Key, if you read the tech tree you know what to go for and not what to go for, take 1-2 real minutes time and see the tech tree, most / almost all opponents respect that and its very inpolite to resume a game without the consent of the person who paused. And thats an unwritten rule the community (atleast in Medieval Siege Lobby) obeyed (guessing) 97% of the time.
We must play in very different circles i guess.

I've been playing ES games for quite some time and If you tell me "i need a min to check the tech tree" i will unpause. So will every single player i play with. If you do not know the tech tree that is your (mine in this case, hence i am doing something to change that) problem.

What i do is check it during age transitions if i am walled or in maps like bf, LN or arena.
Just in case you're thinking "don't tell them it's for that", we generally don't tolerate serial pausers too. As a friend of mine put it "if you don't have the time to play don't join multiplayer".

I appreciate the advice but that is precisely what i am trying to avoid.
Thanks anyway.
 

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