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Bracket & Schedule
 
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Poor DauT, will be a tough group.
And would be nice to see BacT and Vinch go through as well.
And MbL please take a nice revenge on Capoch.
 
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Group D is the group of death

then again Capoch vs DauT facing each other on a big tourney just like 15+ years ago is insane
 
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zuviss said:
Group D is the group of death
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I don't quite like the "Group of death" here per se. There're just 16 of the best players, and I think none of the 4 groups are too easy.
 
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Empire Wars with these maps prefer players with prepared strategies. I think Daut might have good chances to get to quarterfinals.

Group A is Finland vs China. Naturally it is the toughest group. 11.
 
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Wasn't entirely clear to me which matches will be held on which day, but I think I've pieced together the schedule:

Saturday 16 Jan, 13 GMT: eight group matches (BO3)
Sunday 17 Jan, 13 GMT: four matches between the winners (BO3), four matches between the losers (BO3)

Friday 22 Jan, 15 GMT: four decider matches between players with 1 win 1 loss (BO5)
Saturday 23 Jan, 15 GMT: four quarterfinals (BO5)
Sunday 24 Jan, 15 GMT: two semi-finals (BO5) and one grand finals (BO7)
 
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Are the quarterfinal matches pre-determined? (eg. Winner A v Runner-up C etc...) I couldn't see it anywhere.
 
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andae23 said:
Wasn't entirely clear to me which matches will be held on which day, but I think I've pieced together the schedule:

Saturday 16 Jan, 13 GMT: eight group matches (BO3)
Sunday 17 Jan, 13 GMT: four matches between the winners (BO3), four matches between the losers (BO3)

Friday 22 Jan, 15 GMT: four decider matches between players with 1 win 1 loss (BO5)
Saturday 23 Jan, 15 GMT: four quarterfinals (BO5)
Sunday 24 Jan, 15 GMT: two semi-finals (BO5) and one grand finals (BO7)
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Are the quarterfinal matches pre-determined? (eg. Winner A v Runner-up C etc...) I couldn't see it anywhere.
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No, they will be randomly drawn as a winner vs a different runner up.

This is to prevent a player from potentially deliberately coming 2nd place to get an easier match up if there is an upset in their corresponding group.
 
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randomly drawn
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Hopefully not like in Hidden Cup 1 :sneaky:
 
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How were these groups determined?
 
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robo said:
No, they will be randomly drawn as a winner vs a different runner up.

This is to prevent a player from potentially deliberately coming 2nd place to get an easier match up if there is an upset in their corresponding group.
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I like the approach considering that the brackets are semi-random anyway and no seeding could be screwed up by this.

Will they be drawn live on stream after the group stage decider matches?
I fear that some trolls will see the next conspiracy here if Viper and Liereyy do not match up in the Quarterfinals for some weird reason although one of them only reached the second place in his group - the likelihood of this happening randomly is only at 67%(!), which gets even lower when you consider that Nicov again has to meet TaToH, which already happened once in a tournament in 1987!
Jokes aside, I think it would be a cool feature and create even more hype. :smile:
 
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Top 4 players are all in different groups, were they seeded?
 
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Funito said:
Top 4 players are all in different groups, were they seeded?
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Yes, top 4 from rbw3 were split up, then the other 4 invites, then 2 random qualifiers.
 
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Poor DauT, will be a tough group.
And would be nice to see BacT and Vinch go through as well.
And MbL please take a nice revenge on Capoch.
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The Lord will have a tough time beating these guys :D
 
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The Lord will have a tough time beating these guys :D
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WUUUT??? Those guys will have a tough time trying to beat Our Lord and Saviour.
 
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Semisky said:
I don't quite like the "Group of death" here per se. There're just 16 of the best players, and I think none of the 4 groups are too easy.
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Well, I would say group C is "Group of death"
 
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Drawing on stream could be pretty cool and interesting. Shouldn't be too hard to get done digitally and certainly easy if you let t90 pick papers out of a hat.

On an unrelated note, I think this should be absolutely a thing for Hidden Cup, have some show matches a couple days before (like we had last time), and do a UEFA-style drawing of the bracket. Can put all speculation to rest.
 
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Whats wrong with the official stream? The game looks so weird =(
 
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Whats wrong with the official stream? The game looks so weird =(
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They are using Capture Age for whatever reason, even though over past few weeks it was commonly rejected by most casters for being buggy, having sound issues, looking super weird..
yeah it's not the greatest and I really hope they switch back to either original DE overlay or the old "CA overlay"
 
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The colors are burning my eyes and is so grainy. Don't know why they are trying to use an observer instead of letting one the casters control the camera. Personally I hate the click and drag movement, but that might just be me.

Sorry for sounding bitter, but it's legit hard for me to look at the stream without getting a headache.
 
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Don't wanna overreact or pile on but this first series Yo/Villese has been completely ruined and unwatchable. Hope they get things sorted out... fast
 
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Are you guys watching on 1080p?
 
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Its the same circus every big tournament: Quality sucks, "observer" caster and caster delay. And when i look in other channels all is fine, but i dont speak their language. How do "official" stream consistently miss the mark when individual streamers have it all worked out?
 
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Are you guys watching on 1080p?
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Has nothing to do with resolution
this CA like clearly has some issues with stuttering, even shadows(lower shadow res, bigger transparency?), which contributes to the entire visual side of the stream feeling uncanny
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I understand that for some people this is less noticeable and less of an issue than for others but yeah, for me personally it's not easy to watch.

Don't mean to hate on RB, the casters, team behind CA or anything though; just hope it can be fixed/improved rather sooner than later
 
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Has nothing to do with resolution
this CA like clearly has some issues with stuttering, even shadows(lower shadow res, bigger transparency?), which contributes to the entire visual side of the stream feeling uncanny
View attachment 188308
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I understand that for some people this is less noticeable and less of an issue than for others but yeah, for me personally it's not easy to watch.
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Coz I saw Spaden complaining about the colour. For me it gets muddier with lower resolution.
 
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