RBW5 - Player Update

[-R-]

If Capoch had been eliminated in the last 64. would he still get an invite just because he had been successful before?

Well, as I just mentioned, if Capoch can't go then LaaaaaN (who was eliminated by Capoch!) will be invited if they go by seeding. Isn't that amusing?

 

[menonation]

a lot of hatred towards capoch, when will they close the thread?

 

[realbigfish]

Hi, it is my understanding that ACCM cannot make it to the tournament. Capoch has received an invitation for that reason. However, I faced Capoch in the qualifiers and beat him. I ended up third and was close to qualifying. Could you elaborate why me or Barles were not considered? Wouldn’t you invite Jordan if I were to qualify? Don’t get me wrong, but I quit my job and I’m spending significant time to compete at top level.

Super valid point and an eloboration is needed.

on the other hand it is quite simple: historic results were weighted higher than qualifier. So even if capoch would have failed ro 128 he would be in.
If qualifier would be weighted higher (which should imo) the result would be kasva vs. Barles.

 

[doville]

a lot of hatred towards capoch, when will they close the thread?

there is no hatred towards capoch, all of this is about RB, Capoch is a victim too.

 

[Vanvan]

So much controversy over a player's invite. From what I understand, RBW is comprised of 10 guests based on their prior participation in RBW and 2 qualifying spaces. Within this criterion, Capoch's invitation is correct, as the qualifying slots are full. Strictly if an invited player cannot attend the main event for different reasons, then another invited player must attend, obeying the previously stipulated rules, that is, according to their participation in previous RBWs.

 

[ponciliano]

Hi, it is my understanding that ACCM cannot make it to the tournament. Capoch has received an invitation for that reason. However, I faced Capoch in the qualifiers and beat him. I ended up third and was close to qualifying. Could you elaborate why me or Barles were not considered? Wouldn’t you invite Jordan if I were to qualify? Don’t get me wrong, but I quit my job and I’m spending significant time to compete at top level.

By the same reason TaToH got Yo's place without qualifying.

Complainment should've been made that time.

Agreed it sucks a lot. I would be quite angry if this happened to me. That's why I don't shy from criticizing what I see is wrong, even if I'm not a direct victim.

If you complain only when **** gets to you, then well, you're already ****ed. Another lesson to learn for today.

 

[z3us]

I guess the logic here is 2 spots for qualifiers, all others invited. So, if any one of the invited players can't attend now, then it will be Laan (Vivi, BacT can't attend obviously). If one more player can't attend then that spot goes to Jordan. Now, since Jordan is an invited player, there is an open spot in qualifiers, and this spot will now be decided between Kasva and Barles. If a third player drops out, next in line is Slam. He becomes an invited player, and both Kasva and Barles get qualified automatically.

Btw, this is all assuming RB/admin is considering the same table as this one below since as far as I'm aware they haven't released the real ratings or true ratings or whatever they choose to call it.

		RBW1	RBW2	RBW3	RBW4
1	Liereyy	3~4	1	2	1
2	Hera	3~4	2	5~8	2
3	Yo	1	3~4	5~8	5~8
4	Viper	2	3~4	5~8	3~4
5	Daut	5~8	9~16	1	5~8
6	ACCM	9~16	9~16	3~4	5~8
7	Vinchester	9~16	9~16	5~8	3~4
8	Villese	9~16	9~16	3	9~12
9	MBL	5~8	9~16	13~16	5~8
10	Nicov	9~16	5~8	13~16	9~12
11	Tatoh	5~8	5~8	9~12	17~24
12	dogao	9~16	9~16	17~24	9~12
13	TheMax	9~16	5~8	13~16	-
14	Capoch	-	5~8	9~12	25~32
15	Vivi	17~24	17~24	9~12	13~16
16	LaaaaaN	5~8	9~16	33~64	33~64
17	BacT	25~32	17~24	9~12	17~24
18	Jordan	-	-	25~32	9~12
19	Slam	9~16	25~32	17~24	17~24
20	F1Re	9~16	17~24	25~32	25~32
21	Sitaux	25~32	25~32	25~32	13~16
22	Miguel	33~64	9~16	33~64	25~32
23	Valas	-	-	25~32	13~16
24	Daniel	33~64	-	13~16	25~32
25	SongSong	-	-	-	13~16

 

[LeoMontero]

So much controversy over a player's invite. From what I understand, RBW is comprised of 10 guests based on their prior participation in RBW and 2 qualifying spaces. Within this criterion, Capoch's invitation is correct, as the qualifying slots are full. Strictly if an invited player cannot attend the main event for different reasons, then another invited player must attend, obeying the previously stipulated rules, that is, according to their participation in previous RBWs.

exactly this, its not dificult men.
the only thing is why the max was not invited, but im sure he declined the invitation for some reason. time will tell.
and for the ones that said why a LAN in pandemia, because yes, because is amazing. with your criteria, why Formula 1? Why Champions League?? Why Wimbledon??? and so on. yes, some guys with corona cant be there, or some others because they cant travel, but life goes on.
you want drama for the drama it self.

 

[Goccero]

It is a pity that some players were unable to participate due to COVID, But It is completely unfair that KASVA was not invited.
Players with high scores in the qualifiers should be invited like Kasva who is beat Capoch. This unfair should be fixed as soon as possible. Thus, the fairness of RBW will not suffer.

 

[CorsoLa]

A great injustice done to Kasva. He deserved it and beat Cappoch in the qualifiers. Please stop this ridiculous decision and invite the winner (Kasva) to Germany.

 

[SuperskinnyBLS]

Can someone mute those fanboys raiding the thread?

 

[ponciliano]

It's funny how whenever a turkish player is involved in some kind of drama, all the turkish come and form a chorus in favor of that player, no matter what's being claimed.

Not that it's bad by itself, I just find it funny.

 

[-R-]

It's funny how whenever a turkish player is involved in some kind of drama, all the turkish come and form a chorus in favor of that player, no matter what's being claimed.

Not that it's bad by itself, I just find it funny.

Well, it's not unlike what happens when a Brazilian or Argentinian player finds himself in a similar situation. Some sub-communities are perhaps a bit too prone to closing ranks along national lines for my liking.

 

[CorsoLa]

Can someone mute those fanboys raiding the thread?

We are Turkish And we have a habit. We stand tall in the face of injustice.
And this has nothing to do with fanboyism.

 

[Goccero]

It's funny how whenever a turkish player is involved in some kind of drama, all the turkish come and form a chorus in favor of that player, no matter what's being claimed.

Not that it's bad by itself, I just find it funny.

Is it fair for you to invite a player who was eliminated in the tournament and another player who has never participated in the tournament, by passing 2 high-scoring players?

 

[TopperHarley]

Didnt Kasva try to qualify for every single Red Bull event, and failed in ALL occasions? I honestly couldnt think of a player that would deserve less playing in the big finals...

Sad for ACCM, but happy that Capoch gets his chance, he performed well throughout the Red Bull Series and is a deserved invite.

 

[ponciliano]

Well, it's not unlike what happens when a Brazilian or Argentinian player finds himself in a similar situation. Some sub-communities are perhaps a bit too prone to closing ranks along national lines for my liking.

Agreed.

Is it fair for you to invite a player who was eliminated in the tournament and another player who has never participated in the tournament, by passing 2 high-scoring players?

It is not.

But turkish community should've made the complainment when TaToH got invited in the place of Yo. Not only when a turkish player got harmed. Now they gotta commit to what has already been stablished. As I just said:

If you complain only when **** gets to you, then well, you're already ****ed. Another lesson to learn for today.

 

[Oxelot]

Brazilians are now free to join Germany. Dogao wasnt even asked about the possibility and just got to know about it today.

We both and the chinese guys didnt join the qualifier coz we didnt want to have the possibility of eliminating someone who could qualify and in the end we wouldnt be able to go. What it tells me is that next time everyone should be playing qualifiers even not knowning if they will be able to be at the event, just because, in the end, everything will be adapted.

Theres only two right ways to have got it fair:

1st.: Making a series between Kasva and Barles because they both were in the final round of the qualifier.
2nd.: Ask dogao about his possibility to travel there(since he was the next one in the ranking).

Inviting capoch makes absolutely no sense.

I completely agree to this.
And even if Dogao would not come, next on the list would be TheMax.

 

[Goccero]

Agreed.

It is not.

But turkish community should've made the complainment when TaToH got invited in the place of Yo. Not only when a turkish player got harmed. Now they gotta commit to what has already been stablished. As I just said:

we already said that instead of capoch and tatoh, kasva and barlas should join the main event.Because it is fair.

 

[z3us]

I completely agree to this.
And even if Dogao would not come, next on the list would be TheMax.

I think TheMax declined the invitation as he had prior obligations (studies?). I think someone even mentioned this in their stream.

 

[OLADUSHEK]

Bullshit having only 2 players qualifying to LAN! Make at least 4.

 

[ponciliano]

we already said that instead of capoch and tatoh, kasva and barlas should join the main event.Because it is fair.

It is not to Capoch and TaToH. Tatoh probably already bough his passport and are prepared for travel because he's already entitled to participating after so much time has passed. Not to mention that TaToH didn't even participate in the qualifier because he was already invited. So what? Throw him away after all this time passed? No, it's not fair.

And unfair to Capoch because he has the same rights as TaToH to be directly invited in place of another player.

You already said that when? In this topic? Well, let me tell you it's too late already.

 

[Michaerbse]

we already said that instead of capoch and tatoh, kasva and barlas should join the main event.Because it is fair.

That doesn't make sense. TaToH was invited before the qualifier even started and consequently withdrew his sign-up for the qualifier. He would have been one of the top favourites, if not the top favourite, to qualify. You can't punish TaToH for accepting an invite.

 

[Goccero]

It is not to Capoch and TaToH. Tatoh probably already bough his passport and are prepared for travel because he's already entitled to participating after so much time has passed. Not to mention that TaToH didn't even participate in the qualifier because he was already invited. So what? Throw him away after all this time passed? No, it's not fair.

And unfair to Capoch because he has the same rights as TaToH to be directly invited in place of another player.

You already said that when? In this topic? Well, let me tell you it's too late already.

champion calm down, be fair and read glx_rusher's post

 

[CorsoLa]

That doesn't make sense. TaToH was invited before the qualifier even started and consequently withdrew his sign-up for the qualifier. He would have been one of the top favourites, if not the top favourite, to qualify. You can't punish TaToH for accepting an invite.

The problem isn't whether Tatoh will accept the invitation or not. The problem is that people who deserve it aren't invited here.
Barles and Kasva