Nili's Apartment Cup 3 | 04th-12th January

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From 04.01.2020 - 12.01.2020 the next episode of Nili's Apartment Cup is happening. It will be the first major event that will be played on Age of empires 2: Definitive Edition and is fully funded by Microsoft which resulted in a prizepool of $20,000 and will add 100% of all community donations.​

It will feature TheViper, TaToH, Liereyy, DauT, TheMax, Mr_Yo, Vivi and one Qualifier.

With your beloved casters OrnLu, BBQTurkman, T90Official & Dave.

There will be an open qualifier for which you can sign up here with the exact format TBA, but this is what it might look like:

Spoiler: NAC3 Qualifier Ideas

- Top16 DE ELO of Sign-up's will make it into the qualifier (up for debate)
- maybe slight adjustments, that players from the same team won't face each other early (no dogao vs miguel or Zuppi vs Villese in the first round)
- Single Elimination starting 02.12.2019
- Semi Finals 14.12.2019, Finals 15.12.2019
- Bo7s, Bo9 Final
- Some money for 2nd-4th place
- open Streaming
- in the unlikely event of DE being too buggy/spectating not working properly, it will be played on WK
- only players from countries that won't need a visa can be allowed

There will be a Public Viewing in Hamburg for the Semi-Finals and Finals on the 11th+12.01.2020, aswell as a Meet&Greet with all players and casters on Saturday evening.
Join the Discord for more info

The prizepool distribution will likely look like this:

Spoiler: NAC3 Prizepool Distribution

Prizepool: $20,000+Donations

1st: $4000 +20% of all Donations
2nd: $2800 +14% of all Donations
3rd/4th: $2200 +11% of all Donations
5th/6th: $1600 +8% of all Donations
7th/8th: $1000 +5% of all Donations
Caster (4x): $600 +3% of all Donations
Overlay Guy: $600 +3% of all Donations
Nili: $600 +3% of all Donations

To this point (3rd of November) we already have:
€1.000 = $1.109 donation by anonymous
€3.000 = $3.342 donation by Kamigawa, Pete_Martell & their brother and dr_scrotus , owners of a traditional Italian pizzeria in Berlin: Bye Bye Cavaliere

Anticipated questions:
Where is JorDan? What's with MbL & Nicov?
- JorDan will try to play the qualifiers, it's likely that he will have a showing no matter if he qualifies.
- MbL & Nicov (aswell as Hera) sadly didn't have time.

What's with BacT?
- As a private person that lives off of inconsistent streaming money, it is tricky to guarantee the financial security I need to provide to bring a person from Vietnam to Germany. I feel sad that we can't have any Vietnamese players at any of my tournaments, as long as I organize them as a single person.

Will Liereyy actually train?
- I told him that I expect him to be active before the tournament and he committed to play several showmatches before the event.

Where/when can I contribute to the prizepool?
- simply via the Donation option on the stream (donations for the prizepool will count from the 1st day of the main event: 4th of January)
- you can also contact me via Discord/AoEZone for donations before that

Isn't it a problem that 3 Secret members are playing and Nili as a member of Secret could be biased?
- I have shown in the past that I'm capable of making decisions against friends to protect the integrity of my tournaments
- additionally, I asked all players if they want to have a less involved admin for decision making/ruling instead of me, no player felt that that was necessary

What Nili is a part of Team Secret? I didn't know.
- Now you do.

Why only one qualifier?
- Initially, I wanted to go for two qualifiers
- I felt that out of the invited players Vivi is probably the person that deserves a direct invite the least, but at the same time is likely to qualify (with Dogao, LaaaaaN, miguel, JorDan, Villese, F1Re, Vinchester, st4rk). There is no chance that Vivi can play the qualifier and we sort the visa out in time, though. That's why I decided on a direct invite.

How are Visas for the Chinese looking?
- Yo told me that it should be no problem. We did apply.

Why this caster line-up?
- There are many talented and dedicated casters in this community that are not on the list to attend. I've selected a group based on what I feel will work best for NAC3.
- No specific drama or hard feelings.

 

[MaSmOrRa]

TIL: Madrid is a coastal town

Iirc Memb lives in Almeria, indeed a coastal town.

 

[Huehuecoyotl22]

Iirc Memb lives in Almeria, indeed a coastal town.

Close to Almería, according to his interview: https://www.aoezone.net/threads/a-romantic-night-with-spain-memb.147972/. He lives very close to the coast even.

It was just a joke and I guess it is harder for Memb to organize, because he has a family, but I think many people would love a LAN with meet-up in Southern Spain.
People are becoming more aware of the damage caused by flights, but generally, if AoE 2 grows, I can imagine more big AoE LAN (finals) at different places too. We had 2 in China, one in England, one in Germany and one in Belgium already. Maldives too, but that was a different thing.

 

[MaSmOrRa]

Close to Almería, according to his interview: https://www.aoezone.net/threads/a-romantic-night-with-spain-memb.147972/. He lives very close to the coast even.

It was just a joke and I guess it is harder for Memb to organize, because he has a family, but I think many people would love a LAN with meet-up in Southern Spain.
People are becoming more aware of the damage caused by flights, but generally, if AoE 2 grows, I can imagine more big AoE LAN (finals) at different places too. We had 2 in China, one in England, one in Germany and one in Belgium already. Maldives too, but that was a different thing.

Agree with everything, but I was just replying to @Oli King who sounded like he thought Memb lives in Madrid. Maybe because he knows Memb is a Real Madrid fan :P

It's something some people don't really understand, but in Portugal and I guess in Spain too, it's perfectly normal to live in a city and support the club from a totally different city.

I remember my German friends finding this concept really weird, as they usually just support the clubs from the city where they live, which is of course a much healthier practice and surely one of the reasons why Bundesliga matches have one of the highest (or maybe THE highest?) attendance rates.

 

[Tarsiz]

It's something some people don't really understand, but in Portugal and I guess in Spain too, it's perfectly normal to live in a city and support the club from a totally different city.

In France too. I lived in the suburbs of Paris for 20 years and growing up most of my friends hated PSG, and were more often supporting clubs like Lyon and Marseille.

 

[doacid]

TIL: Madrid is a coastal town

Where did you learn that?
Memb looks out his window and sees the Mediterranean. If that's not a coastal town I don't know what is.

 

[FolderOfDoom]

Its even as far from beeing a costal town or more like costal city as something can be

So how could Memb live in Madrid ^^

 

[amazing_knight]

Who'd think, that at Page 16 of this discussion thread, we would be learning about Geography?

Let me call it: at page 20, we would be learning about History.

 

[theHand]

The map is giving me El Cid flashbacks already. I can see Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar, astride his faithful steed Bavieca, mighty blade Tizon held aloft...

 

[Nicov]

Mbl could definitely use these geography lessons

 

[AkeNo]

so how can u make it into qualifiers? it's now rougly ~2 weeks until they start (16 players) and I think it's still unclear if you've chosen to go with the ranked DE ladder or something else. I think it would be fair for those who want to play the qualifiers to know if it's worth grinding DE as soon as it's released or otherwise..

 

[Rey_Fer]

How can they know if the DE ladder works before release?

They said that the idea is to use it unless there is a big problem.

 

[Tendo]

I think it would be fair for those who want to play the qualifiers to know if it's worth grinding DE as soon as it's released or otherwise..

It is fair because no one has an advantage, no one knows whether DE Elo will be needed or not.
Obviously it makes no sense for Nili to decide/write it now when we don't whether Ranked will be working correctly or not.

 

[Tempires]

How can they know if the DE ladder works before release?

They said that the idea is to use it unless there is a big problem.

it worked on beta. only problem would be there is not enough high level players to get accurate ranking

 

[Rey_Fer]

I know it technically work, my point is that if it worked as an accurate indicator for tournament qualification

I mean, we don't know if there will be problems that don't allow the best players to qualify for the qualifier.

If there are no problems: use the ladder as intended
If there are problems: probably another method will be used, but as a fix.

I believe that the rules are written so that the DE ladder will be used unless something bad happens

 

[IamRider_]

Will you be co-oping to spec during qualifier games to cast?
Like the old days on TheZone....
Or just watching recorded games?

 

[Red Devil]

Qualifiers bracket?

 

[Rey_Fer]

Qualifiers bracket?

https://www.aoezone.net/threads/nac-3-qualifier-brackets.162443/post-640542