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@Nili_AoE how does it feel to starve aoe2 scene for 6 months and go all in on aoe4? While doing so you significantly hurt the only working part of aoe wheel

To be clear I'm talking about how you allocated tournament funding
 
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ninja14 said:
@Nili_AoE how does it feel to starve aoe2 scene for 6 months and go all in on aoe4? While doing so you significantly hurt the only working part of aoe wheel

To be clear I'm talking about how you allocated tournament funding
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Has AoE2 been hurt though?
Player count and viewercount look to be about the same as they were
 
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ninja14 said:
@Nili_AoE how does it feel to starve aoe2 scene for 6 months and go all in on aoe4? While doing so you significantly hurt the only working part of aoe wheel

To be clear I'm talking about how you allocated tournament funding
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It's just a game. stop treating it like a ****ing cult.

Also congratz to Nili. He did what was right. The conflict of interest was bad for everybody and glad he recognized that.
 
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I dont really care. He burned bridges and when he found out the grass on the other side isn't greener, he went back as nothing happened. I rather support people who stayed true to the real game instead chasing a hype that was doomed from the start. Not to mention the comments while doing that.
And to be honest, he lacks the skill to the top players. GL guys took him for his connections and friendship.
 
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Halleju said:
He burned bridges and when he found out the grass on the other side isn't greener, he went back as nothing happened. I rather support people who stayed true to the real game instead chasing a hype that was doomed from the start. Not to mention the comments while doing that.
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You really sound like a guy from some sect. One true game. One game for lifetime. Playing or even watching other game is betrayal and cannot be forgiven xD Enjoying other games is a crime.
 
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Andorraninja14

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plfan said:
You really sound like a guy from some sect. One true game. One game for lifetime. Playing or even watching other game is betrayal and cannot be forgiven xD Enjoying other games is a crime.
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I think difference is,

(a) playing multiple games and talking about each on their own merits

vs

(b) trashing and sabotaging a game to promote other
 
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ninja14 said:
I think difference is,

(a) playing multiple games and talking about each on their own merits

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(b) trashing and sabotaging a game to promote other
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Microsoft giving money for promoting their new product is completly understandable. It was just a worse 6 months for game with 20 years history. I don't remember trashing AoE2 by Nilli. But maybe I need to follow more aoezone dramas and a hundred pages threads like "Current Situation on Aoe4 and Aoe2" to know how bad and wicked person he is.

Also I'm sure if anyone else was the tournament coordinator the situation in tournament founding would be exactly the same. Microsoft is giving money, not Nilli. He is just a good, familiar face you can hate instead of hating some microsoft random guy.
 
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It is the right decision. I was not a fan of the double role, no matter who held it. Since we don't know exactly who made what decisions either way, it's pointless to assign blame.
In my opinion, this job should never have been given to a player/tournament host.
I hope that Microsoft will find someone who is motivated, knows the scene and is not caught up in the same dilemma as nili. ( yeah not gonna be easy)
I wish Nili that he has fun with streaming. I actually like his stream, but when I looked at him in the last few months, it always seemed a bit cramped. After all, many viewers and new AoE2 tournaments are always good for the community.
 
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ponciliano said:
Also congratz to Nili. He did what was right. The conflict of interest was bad for everybody and glad he recognized that.
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You're spreading wrong information. It was Microsoft who told Nili that he has to stop competing or won't be allowed to work anymore because of conflict of interest. Nili always wanted to do both, realizing the conflict of interest but not caring about it. In the end he wanted to keep competing so he resigned from his job at Microsoft.
 
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How my grandmother would have said - "Er ist ein guter Junge."
 
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plfan said:
Microsoft giving money for promoting their new product is completly understandable. It was just a worse 6 months for game with 20 years history. I don't remember trashing AoE2 by Nilli. But maybe I need to follow more aoezone dramas and a hundred pages threads like "Current Situation on Aoe4 and Aoe2" to know how bad and wicked person he is.

Also I'm sure if anyone else was the tournament coordinator the situation in tournament founding would be exactly the same. Microsoft is giving money, not Nilli. He is just a good, familiar face you can hate instead of hating some microsoft random guy.
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you dont remember trashing?? there are at least 2 times that i remember. i already do a list in the current situation with the proofs and everything, that no one could denied.

he can do what he wants. and i know people can change. but what happened with the statement: aoe4 is the future, i dont see aoe2 future bright, aoe4 is better game. now he goes back to aoe2 because aoe4 is sinking fast. like i have already said, he made a gamble, and he lost. the most important thing, he lost his word, and credibility, and he must work really hard to be at the same level as before.

to resume, wish him luck, i will not watch him. also i dont think he has the level to be where he wants to be. but anything can be posible
 
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Spaindoacid

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LeoMontero said:
i already do a list in the current situation with the proofs and everything
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You sound like a lunatic who's writing down all the people who (supposedly) did him wrong so he can have revenge.

Unsurprisingly you're not the only one in this forum who keeps this kind of "log of enemies".

"December 24, 2021: Nili said in his stream that aoe4 is the future. If my calculations are right this is the 3rd time Nili disrespected aoe2. As it is normal with this kind of impure humans, he couldn't help to show an evil smile while he was saying it.
They are trying hard to destroy us, but we will fight back with might and honor. aoe2 will prevail
"
 
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Nili has been and will keep being a positive force in the community, we're lucky to have him. I especially treasure the NAC1-3 and (if I recall correctly) he financed the first out of his own pocket? Legend.

NOW - I also agree it wasn't the best to have a player AND tournament host at the same time being who assigned the $. Good call from Microsoft to put limits to that.

Moving forward, wish him all the best in his grind. Hopefully he keeps the motivation :smile:
 
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Progeusz said:
You're spreading wrong information. It was Microsoft who told Nili that he has to stop competing or won't be allowed to work anymore because of conflict of interest. Nili always wanted to do both, realizing the conflict of interest but not caring about it. In the end he wanted to keep competing so he resigned from his job at Microsoft.
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Thanks for the correction. Props to Microsoft then.
 
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Germanyltm

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Never should've taken the job in the first place. Trying to be tournament coordinator, tournament host, competitive player and streamer all at once was bound to lead to controversy with the amount of money that is involved nowadays.
Of course N4C was the big talking point there but just in general i think nobody should have all these roles at once no matter who it is and how trustworthy that person might be.

Good that this got resolved and even better he's back at AOE2, he's a legend of the game/community.
 
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ltm said:
Never should've taken the job in the first place. Trying to be tournament coordinator, tournament host, competitive player and streamer all at once was bound to lead to controversy with the amount of money that is involved nowadays.
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If you're greedy for money and fast growth in a new community, you set moral standards aside and dont care about conflict of interests.
 
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finally. hopefully the controversies around the tournament coordinator role will disappear.
 
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i am happy for this decisen. there was to much interest of conflict becos he was streamer and player and tournament cordinator.
for my self i found piece with nili. i wish nili great suckcess with tournaments. if he gos full try hard 2x round 16 is not that unrealistic to be honest.
nili is one of the most important person in aoe2 universe. he is around sinse the very beginning and hosted many big tournaments. normally we shood all love him but sometimes he makes it hard for us to actelly love him. but now i love him again.
 
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doacid said:
You sound like a lunatic who's writing down all the people who (supposedly) did him wrong so he can have revenge.

Unsurprisingly you're not the only one in this forum who keeps this kind of "log of enemies".

"December 24, 2021: Nili said in his stream that aoe4 is the future. If my calculations are right this is the 3rd time Nili disrespected aoe2. As it is normal with this kind of impure humans, he couldn't help to show an evil smile while he was saying it.
They are trying hard to destroy us, but we will fight back with might and honor. aoe2 will prevail
"
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Kek it's actually funny the amount of people who took that comment literally. Actually it's probably just you posting about it on repeat while you spend your days defending blatant corruption
 
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Influenza said:
Kek it's actually funny the amount of people who took that comment literally. Actually it's probably just you posting about it on repeat while you spend your days defending blatant corruption
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I made it into your list again didn't I? It's so funny it's you who answered, thank you 11

Maybe if one day you outgrow your constant state of war against infidels and the conspiracy delusions you could share your whole log and screenshot collection with us. I reckon your work is so prolific that we could trace back and rebuild the entire aoe2 history from it. I think it would be a total hit in this forum.
Plus we could hold hands, sing "kumbaya my lord" together and be brothers again.

"June 29, 2022: doacid made yet another joke about our cult. He's done it too many times so I stopped counting. Note to self; my LeoMontero alternate account has been burnt. I thought faking bad grammar and using a VPN would be enough but these corrupted infidels are onto me."
 
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doacid said:
I made it into your list again didn't I? It's so funny it's you who answered, thank you 11
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You were obviously referencing me, why shouldn't I answer? IIRC it's not even the first time you mention me in such vague terms. Keep typing your fanfictions, they are super funny dude and not cringe at all. And keep defending nili awarding his own brand $100k, he certainly earned that sum.
 
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doacid said:
You sound like a lunatic who's writing down all the people who (supposedly) did him wrong so he can have revenge.

Unsurprisingly you're not the only one in this forum who keeps this kind of "log of enemies".

"December 24, 2021: Nili said in his stream that aoe4 is the future. If my calculations are right this is the 3rd time Nili disrespected aoe2. As it is normal with this kind of impure humans, he couldn't help to show an evil smile while he was saying it.
They are trying hard to destroy us, but we will fight back with might and honor. aoe2 will prevail
"
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first, i dont know what are you talking in the first sentence.
second, the quote you wrote, i didnt write it.
so i dont understand your point. what are you trying to say, and are you trying to talk trash to me?
 
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doacid said:
I made it into your list again didn't I? It's so funny it's you who answered, thank you 11

Maybe if one day you outgrow your constant state of war against infidels and the conspiracy delusions you could share your whole log and screenshot collection with us. I reckon your work is so prolific that we could trace back and rebuild the entire aoe2 history from it. I think it would be a total hit in this forum.
Plus we could hold hands, sing "kumbaya my lord" together and be brothers again.

"June 29, 2022: doacid made yet another joke about our cult. He's done it too many times so I stopped counting. Note to self; my LeoMontero alternate account has been burnt. I thought faking bad grammar and using a VPN would be enough but these corrupted infidels are onto me."
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what a stupid person, im not omg, im not influenza. you deserve a ban my friend, trying to disgrace people.
 
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doacid said:
I made it into your list again didn't I? It's so funny it's you who answered, thank you 11

Maybe if one day you outgrow your constant state of war against infidels and the conspiracy delusions you could share your whole log and screenshot collection with us. I reckon your work is so prolific that we could trace back and rebuild the entire aoe2 history from it. I think it would be a total hit in this forum.
Plus we could hold hands, sing "kumbaya my lord" together and be brothers again.

"June 29, 2022: doacid made yet another joke about our cult. He's done it too many times so I stopped counting. Note to self; my LeoMontero alternate account has been burnt. I thought faking bad grammar and using a VPN would be enough but these corrupted infidels are onto me."
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This is pretty ad hominem, but it's pretty funny as well
 
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