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Nili announces NC4 - $100K AoE4 LAN

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Today Nili announced that NAC4 is now N4C, and will be a $100K prizepool AoE4 LAN.

DeMuslim and Viper automatically invited for winning an S-Tier AoE4 tourney, and 6 will qualify.
 
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thats a pity
 
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Did he give a date? I'm presuming that gives the developers a strong incentive to deal with issues with the game. I'm not a zealot...if they make AOE4 as good as AOE2 I'll be happy. Albeit I've got more than 20 years of AOE2 under my belt so it's my true love
 
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Claiming biggest prize pool in terms of MS funding for a game with lower playerbase, and it gets allocated to your own tournament. Interesting 11

Viper is also auto-invited after talking just couple days ago on Daut's stream about how he isn't playing aoe4 anymore, as the game isn't fun 11
 
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Claiming biggest prize pool in terms of MS funding for a game with lower playerbase, and it gets allocated to your own tournament.
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‘this shouldn’t surprise anyone, that’s how he operates
 
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Did he give a date? I'm presuming that gives the developers a strong incentive to deal with issues with the game. I'm not a zealot...if they make AOE4 as good as AOE2 I'll be happy. Albeit I've got more than 20 years of AOE2 under my belt so it's my true love
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5.03-13.03 5 days swiss stage followed by KO rounds.
 
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rmcoo said:
Claiming biggest prize pool in terms of MS funding for a game with lower playerbase, and it gets allocated to your own tournament. Interesting 11
Viper is also auto-invited after talking just couple days ago on Daut's stream about how he isn't playing aoe4 anymore, as the game isn't fun 11
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Also qualifies after winning an S-Tier tournament on release week, meanwhile an S-Tier tournament is going on but the winner won't qualify.
 
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rmcoo said:
Claiming biggest prize pool in terms of MS funding for a game with lower playerbase, and it gets allocated to your own tournament. Interesting 11

Viper is also auto-invited after talking just couple days ago on Daut's stream about how he isn't playing aoe4 anymore 11
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that explains nili's dedication to aoe4 when even none of his teammates plays the game anymore 11
 
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N4C - Why AoE 4? What Does N4C Mean? Why Berlin? - FAQ
 
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Claiming biggest prize pool in terms of MS funding for a game with lower playerbase, and it gets allocated to your own tournament. Interesting 11


Also qualifies after winning an S-Tier tournament on release week, meanwhile an S-Tier tournament is going on but the winner won't qualify.
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I think Nili said that Winter Series "is not really S-Tier"
 
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I think Nili said that Winter Series "is not really S-Tier"
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That's a massive cop-out.
 
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rmcoo said:
Claiming biggest prize pool in terms of MS funding for a game with lower playerbase, and it gets allocated to your own tournament.
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+1 to that, this is simple definition of corruption.
 
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That's a massive cop-out.
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Maybe it's because it doesn't conclude until 4 days after his announcement? Idk
 
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now this is the fair and balanced tournament organizing i was talking about
 
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Maybe it's because it doesn't conclude until 4 days after his announcement? Idk
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He could just say *and the winner of Winter Series* or something along those lines. The way this looks, it's a massive disappointment, although he won't give two shits about my opinion 11
 
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on video Nili says that NAC4 on 2021 (before MS job) would most likely had had been 100k
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Thanks for pointing out as you said before he was the one who distributed money. That's why it is called corruption.

I guess this is the moment that I unfollow Nili completely.
 
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Nili explains that if he allowed another invite for the 3rd S-tier AoE4 tourney, it would make the qualifiers "uneven" but that he will likely organize "at least 1" AoE2 tourney this year
 
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on video Nili says that NAC4 on 2021 (before MS job) would most likely had had been 100k too. anyway Nili has been making top S-tier tournaments so i think he does deserve funding for his tournaments regardless of being employed by MS . MS/FE allowed Nili to continue his Tournament organiser / streaming / player career so i don' t know if his job should prevent him getting price pools, espicially when he is not most likely one responsible to give moeny for himself
 
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now this is the fair and balanced tournament organizing i was talking about
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Just wait for Simonsan. He will explain how this is the most fair and balanced tournament ever. With absolutely no conflict of interest. He'll prove it with references and all. So if you disagree, you're just factually incorrect.
 
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I don't think that's the smartest move ever and it's likely going to bring so much drama and negativity.
1) MS sponsors 100k tournament (biggest MS sponsorship since 2001?) and it's the tournament baby of the people in charge of MS funds. Doesn't seem like a clash of interests at all.

2) Without choosing either game, all numbers are showing 1 thing - AoE IV is declining and it's already behind AoE II regarding viewers/players. So the solution is to drop extremelly huge prize pool for few players that qualify? I hope it's going to be at least 20k from the prize pool used for the players who won't qualify. Still wouldn't see the point why 8 players have to fight for 80k prize pool, but whatever.

3) Nili has a big say in handling MS funds. There's 100k. Do you know how many and which tournaments this could bring? Instead, it's all spent on N4C.. Awesome. So the tournaments featuring many top players like MoS 2 will stay community funded forever, when 1k would help a lot there. As MS spent 100k on AoE IV event.

4) I don't know about tournament calendar, as apparently very simple feature is taking 6 months for now. However, oGN is doing amazing job in the french community, he organized European Rumble, this year World Rumble. And you make N4C just at the same time as the Final weekend of his. Lovely.
 
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1) MS sponsors 100k tournament (biggest MS sponsorship since 2001?) and it's the tournament baby of the people in charge of MS funds. Doesn't seem like a clash of interests at all.
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MS sponsored RBW 5 with 100k
 
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DracKeN said:
I don't think that's the smartest move ever and it's likely going to bring so much drama and negativity.
1) MS sponsors 100k tournament (biggest MS sponsorship since 2001?) and it's the tournament baby of the people in charge of MS funds. Doesn't seem like a clash of interests at all.

2) Without choosing either game, all numbers are showing 1 thing - AoE IV is declining and it's already behind AoE II regarding viewers/players. So the solution is to drop extremelly huge prize pool for few players that qualify? I hope it's going to be at least 20k from the prize pool used for the players who won't qualify. Still wouldn't see the point why 8 players have to fight for 80k prize pool, but whatever.

3) Nili has a big say in handling MS funds. There's 100k. Do you know how many and which tournaments this could bring? Instead, it's all spent on N4C.. Awesome. So the tournaments featuring many top players like MoS 2 will stay community funded forever, when 1k would help a lot there. As MS spent 100k on AoE IV event.

4) I don't know about tournament calendar, as apparently very simple feature is taking 6 months for now. However, oGN is doing amazing job in the french community, he organized European Rumble, this year World Rumble. And you make N4C just at the same time as the Final weekend of his. Lovely.
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MS sponsored RBW 5 with 100k
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are you saying that a tournament called Red Bull Wololo was sponsored by a company called Microsoft?
interesting take
do you have any source on that?
 
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are you saying that a tournament called Red Bull Wololo was sponsored by a company called Microsoft?
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do you have any source on that?
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This is public. Has been mentioned by Nili before. It's a co-sponsored tourney
 
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Jarvin said:
are you saying that a tournament called Red Bull Wololo was sponsored by a company called Microsoft?
interesting take
do you have any source on that?
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I can't disclose the direct source where I know this from, I can tell you Red Bull paid the production, World Edge the Prize pool.
 
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