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No Age of Mythology, the best game of the franchise? RedBull are going to regret it.
 
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Without giving futher informations quote from AOE4 pros on the topic
Quote:"There will be news, indeed there will be very good news for AOE 4"
 
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Maybe it's just me, but I feel that having a $100k LAN event for 50% AoE 2 and 50% AoE 4 combined, assuming that's the case, is still better than allocating $100k for AoE 4 and $5k for AoE 2. It won't make sense for MS to ignore its latest game in this franchise completely when making decisions in marketing strategies.
 
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i cant hide my excitement for another redbull event whether it s another wololo or something new.
if their idea is to challenge across multiple periods, surely aoe2 and 4 both cover the same history periods? not sure about any of the other aoe games though and where they fit in
 
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I think they made it clear it's not about viewer numbers when they seemingly announced that a game that averages viewers numbers in the single digits would be included (aoe1)
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There are massive AoE1 creators that prove otherwise.

Chim Se Di Nang has 1.3 million followers on Facebook & gets insane viewership anytime he streams it. There’s also Vietnam GameTV which is primarily AoE1 and is constantly making content. I don’t know a ton about their community but it’s primarily vietnamese and they’ve got a massive following.
 
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MongolTCRush said:
I think they made it clear it's not about viewer numbers when they seemingly announced that a game that averages viewers numbers in the single digits would be included (aoe1)
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There are massive AoE1 creators that prove otherwise.

Chim Se Di Nang has 1.3 million followers on Facebook & gets insane viewership anytime he streams it. There’s also Vietnam GameTV which is primarily AoE1 and is constantly making content. I don’t know a ton about their community but it’s primarily vietnamese and they’ve got a massive following.
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I think MTCRush was basing his point on:

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While there might be other platforms, I wouldn't consider it unfair to say that AOE2 is in a completely different stratosphere compared to AOE I, especially when it comes to live-streaming.

Sure, it's part of the gimmick, but probably doesn't do much to soothe the idea that the bellcow could use some love.
 
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While there might be other platforms, I wouldn't consider it unfair to say that AOE2 is in a completely different stratosphere compared to AOE I, especially when it comes to live-streaming.
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AoE1 has more players and more viewers than every other AoE game combined, so you're correct, AoE1 is in a completely different stratosphere
 
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AoE1 has more players and more viewers than every other AoE game combined, so you're correct, AoE1 is in a completely different stratosphere
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Based on what data do you refute that AOE2 is the more watched, live-streamed game?

I also show 713 in game for AOE I DE.

There are 4k playing AOE II HD.

17K for AOE II DE (not counting voobly, gameranger, et al.)

What am I missing?
 
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IYIyTh said:
Based on what data do you refute that AOE2 is the more watched, live-streamed game?

I also show 713 in game for AOE I DE.

There are 4k playing AOE II HD.

17K for AOE II DE (not counting voobly, gameranger, et al.)

What am I missing?
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Trust me bro, that is info I cannot provide you

Vietnam primarily plays the original AoE1 on various sites similar to Voobly
 
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Based on what data do you refute that AOE2 is the more watched, live-streamed game?

I also show 713 in game for AOE I DE.

There are 4k playing AOE II HD.

17K for AOE II DE (not counting voobly, gameranger, et al.)

What am I missing?
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As far as I know Aoe1 still is played on the original version (not even with Rise of Rome), so those numbers won't show up on Steam. The GameTV YouTube channel has 435K subs, more than any Aoe2 channel (SotL at 352K). I don't know how to get stats for Facebook, but I wouldn't be surprised if Aoe1 streaming were popular there.
 
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Hm.

Probably not as easy on twitch on youtube to pull all AOE2 creators, etc.

Wonder what the business proposition/customer lifetime value is of the average AOE1 viewer vis AOE 2 DE based on the different consumer profiles.
 
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That channel might have 435k subscribers but their videos don't get any views at all so I don't see how that's anything to brag about. If Microsoft's goal is to sell copies I don't think the Vietnamese are the target audience. It sounds like they are in fact the least likely to buy something new.
 
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https://twitter.com/redbullgaming/status/1526578406279766017

Red Bull Wololo Legacy 2022 (MMXXII)
 
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Giuseppe551 said:
That channel might have 435k subscribers but their videos don't get any views at all so I don't see how that's anything to brag about. If Microsoft's goal is to sell copies I don't think the Vietnamese are the target audience. It sounds like they are in fact the least likely to buy something new.
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So by that logic, AoE4 users are more likely to be the target audience as there are a lot of players who came from other franchises and bought the game/subscribed to game pass to play it.
 
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Just like there are a lot of people who bought Aoe2 DE and continue to buy DLCs. I guess we'll see what the prize breakdown is soon enough...
 
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So by that logic, AoE4 users are more likely to be the target audience as there are a lot of players who came from other franchises and bought the game/subscribed to game pass to play it.
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That has been the strategy thus far, no?
 
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That has been the strategy thus far, no?
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It seems so
 
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Forcing participants to compete in both games would be even worse than making them play aoe2 and chess at the same time.
 
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Does anyone know why exactly AoE1 is so popular in Vietnam specifically?
 
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Does anyone know why exactly AoE1 is so popular in Vietnam specifically?
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I remember someone telling that it was coming with a certain Windows version on every new computer there. It was some interview, but I don't remember who.
 
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Huehuecoyotl22 said:
I remember someone telling that it was coming with a certain Windows version on every new computer there. It was some interview, but I don't remember who.
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I think it was installed in like every internet café as a low-performance-needed game and since they were (maybe still are? not sure) popular, that's how it spread. And that's also how they're liking the original game.
 
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Huehuecoyotl22 said:
I remember someone telling that it was coming with a certain Windows version on every new computer there. It was some interview, but I don't remember who.
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Black Adder said:
I think it was installed in like every internet café as a low-performance-needed game and since they were (maybe still are? not sure) popular, that's how it spread. And that's also how they're liking the original game.
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Never would have thought of this but makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
 
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I think it was installed in like every internet café as a low-performance-needed game and since they were (maybe still are? not sure) popular, that's how it spread. And that's also how they're liking the original game.
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Yes. But wasn't it also, because Microsoft gave it to them? Again, I am not completely sure, but I would assume that the internet cafés had it for free.
 
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Yes. But wasn't it also, because Microsoft gave it to them? Again, I am not completely sure, but I would assume that the internet cafés had it for free.
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Thats actually how I got my hands on Age 2. When my dad bought a new PC, Age 2 came with it and was a brand new game then and there. I don't know whether it was some widespread thing in germany though or just a lucky offer :D
 
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