New Civs Leaked

[akku]

In my Opinion this should be +1 vil in feudal/ +2 in castle / +3 in Imp and its still a good eco Bonus, but 2 extra vils when hitting feudal age is pretty big

Free wheelbarrow is better than +2 villagers IMO

And Infantry ignoring Melee armour? Im praying this will be balanced out, their UU is an infantry Unit. They should be missing champion tech, Blast Furnance or even both.

Yep, definitely!
It's not like Leitis, a UU created, which is ignoring armour. These are cheap, spammable units from Barracks!!

This will mean that Halberdiers do 10 damage to everything. Will easily snowball trash fights.

How much melee armour do most units have though? 4 or 5 in most cases so it's basically as good as garland wars, except in some specific cases. (Garland wars is pretty sick though)
So I'd expect some barracks tech missing (like no halb for Aztecs) but I don't think it'd need too much. Plus for the UU they will design the stats knowing the tech exists so that's easy to balance.

It hard counters Teutons.
Many powerful units like Boyars, Obuch etc are also countered.

It's like Garland wars, but pretty much better in all cases, except against trash units.

 

[ProudObuch]

Bengalis seem broken in Post Imp games (closed BF or Arena). Just go Elephants (archers and battle) - what stops this?

 

[Faultier321]

Bengalis seem broken in Post Imp games (closed BF or Arena). Just go Elephants (archers and battle) - what stops this?

only a civ with stronger elephants.

that is what we will see in this expansion - Its basically the middle ages in an alternate Universe, where elephants are the dominating species and different tribes of elephants fought wars with each other.

 

[Faultier321]

Free wheelbarrow is better than +2 villagers IMO

probably in most cases yes... still there are civs with almost no eco bonus at all, I dont understand why every new civ needs an overpowered one. I think +1/+2/+3 vils would still be a decent eco Bonus, and a civ that is strong in late game like this elephant civ shouldnt have an almost Viking Eco, who dont really have the best late game options

 

[akku]

Is "dravidians" the name given to the broader south India? -_-

probably in most cases yes... still there a civs with almost no eco onus at all, i dont understand why every new civ needs an overpowered one. i think +1/+2/+3 vils would still be a decent eco Bonus, and a civ that is strong in late game like this elephant civ shouldnt have an almost Viking Eco, who dont really have the best late game options

Elephants are barely seen in pro games, except in cases like BF teamgames.
Let's see the units and tech tree before making a judgement. Maybe they are not so OP

 

[LeoMontero]

i was not happy when the first DLC was anounced, then i watched the civs and they were meh.
then when the second DLC came i was also not happy, but the civs were ok.
now i must admit that i want this DLC to come asap. im really hype, dont know why.
in the pictures there are like a new pikemen. its weird but cool. then you can see the 2 new intantry UU.
Think also that elephant archer will be in the archery and the UU from indians will be more powerfull, like the persian elephant. also elephants will be available for all this new civs. it will be awesome.

 

[Hunyadi_]

Bengalis seem broken in Post Imp games (closed BF or Arena). Just go Elephants (archers and battle) - what stops this?

 

[Paint]

Please read there first bonus.

 

[Hunyadi_]

Please read there first bonus.

Oh true but more resistant doesn't mean it will take 1 minute longer, just maybe 2 to 3 seconds more. Probably still relatively effective.

 

[LmScar12]

now i must admit that i want this DLC to come asap. im really hype, dont know why.

They did a so much better job of teasing this one, that's why. "Leaked" civ cards that seem 50/50 for plausible deniability if badly received, puzzle piece scenic screenshots. Letting the community boil with anticipation, giving time for negative vibes to fall to the bottom, rather than suddenly announcing a DLC with two random unexpected civs. It also doesn't hurt that this is something much of the community has been asking for, rather than finer and finer degrees of separation of Europe.

 

[Sticky Ice Cream]

Wow, I must admit the DLC looks good this time. Non European civs, no "one shot" UT's, another infantry civ, more naval civs, Elephant Archers might become a regional unit.

 

[HongeyKong]

They just cant stop pushing the game towards the xbow / knight meta.

/s

 

[LeoMontero]

Wow, I must admit the DLC looks good this time. Non European civs, no "one shot" UT's, another infantry civ, more naval civs, Elephant Archers might become a regional unit.

the elephant archer will become for sure a regional unit. but the UU from indians will be stronger, just like battle elephant and persian elephant

 

[Sticky Ice Cream]

the elephant archer will become for sure a regional unit. but the UU from indians will be stronger, just like battle elephant and persian elephant

Yes. I see Spirit of the Law has a speculation video showing an unarmored Elephant Archer at 1:53. This all but explicitly confirms Elephant Archers as a regional Indian unit from the Archery Range. I think the Spearman UU shown at 1:43 replaces the current Elephant Archer UU.

Next DLC location revealed (AoE2)

Some new hints strongly suggest that the upcoming DLC is going to be based around India. Let's review what we know so far. __________________________________...

www.youtube.com

 

[LeoMontero]

Yes. I see Spirit of the Law has a speculation video showing an unarmored Elephant Archer at 1:53. This all but explicitly confirms Elephant Archers as a regional Indian unit from the Archery Range. I think the Spearman UU shown at 1:43 replaces the current Elephant Archer UU.

Next DLC location revealed (AoE2)

Some new hints strongly suggest that the upcoming DLC is going to be based around India. Let's review what we know so far. __________________________________...

www.youtube.com

i dont know about the spearman, maybe that spearman is a regional unit too. i think is quicker than a helabrdier, they seem like run.
so, the civs will have elephants, including he new indians, a new camel scout, no knights, elephant archers, new spear line, and the new UU. awesome

 

[warownia]

i dont know about the spearman, maybe that spearman is a regional unit too. i think is quicker than a helabrdier, they seem like run.
so, the civs will have elephants, including he new indians, a new camel scout, no knights, elephant archers, new spear line, and the new UU. awesome

If the image in the first post is not fake than it indicates that spearman is an UU.

 

[Elvaenor]

Elephant archers as a regional unit really makes me think about how the game could actually be divided into "regions" more than civs.
As an example (not saying it's balanced but to give the idea) Indian civs lose archers but have elephant archers instead, just as the meso civs have no cav but have eagles instead. Now each civ that belongs to the region has their own little bonuses and nuances that further define them.
This would make for an interesting combination of aoe2 and aoe4, with more non-linear playstyles and civs, but still enough familiarity for everyone to recognize 1 tech tree with some branching between regions.
I don't think it will ever happen like this, but I'm quite interested to see how something like that would ever play out to shake up the meta/ define new strats or simply make civs more unique!

 

[Paint]

They revealed one of the civ symbols in this post.

 

[Huehuecoyotl22]

They revealed one of the civ symbols in this post.
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Weren't all (3) in there, meaning we get 3 new civs?

 

[ProudObuch]

Weren't all (3) in there, meaning we get 3 new civs?

The leaks are just true so we already know whats coming

 

[Paint]

Weren't all (3) in there, meaning we get 3 new civs?

I only found this one, if you have the other 2 feel free to share them.

 

[LeoMontero]

If the image in the first post is not fake than it indicates that spearman is an UU.

yes but look that the spearman is in the hindustian part, that are the indians. and in the description, nothing tells about an infantry UU. if more, in all 4 civ description, nothing says about new spearman or new units or that they have a new unit like italians with condotiero or the one from geniturs.

 

[Huehuecoyotl22]

I only found this one, if you have the other 2 feel free to share them.

https://twitter.com/LilTrouble__/status/1514015802894082048

 

[Freezing_Point]

I sure didn't see those first two in the roulette thing, even after getting the grey one multiple times. And I think the old Indians icon might be absent from the wheel. Could we maybe have it wrong, and there's only two new civs? That would be more in line with the previous DLCs.

 

[Huehuecoyotl22]

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I sure didn't see those first two in the roulette thing, even after getting the grey one multiple times. And I think the old Indians icon might be absent from the wheel. Could we maybe have it wrong, and there's only two new civs? That would be more in line with the previous DLCs.

If that is the message they want to give us with those 3 shields, I would guss so.
The first one would then be the old "Indians", probably with a new name:

(old Indian shield)

But I can also imagine them intentionally not having all 4 in this, to leave some surprise.