NC17 - SL KO QF - SK28 France A vs Austria A

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Spoiler: Score

France A 1:3 Austria A Game 1: SYNC_Arabia - Game 2: SYNC_Decentring (homemap Austria A) - Game 3: SYNC_Arena (homemap France A) - Game 4: SYNC_Seize_the_Hump -

Spoiler

Congratulations to France A for finishing joint 5th place in the Silver League (13th overall)!

 

[nimanoe]

the Liereyy factor :lol:

 

[Clemensor]

Still quite a long game even without Liereyy

 

[Lavie_Head]

Good games but rubbish attitude from one of the french players. Sad to face so little respect in a small community where people know each other and have been around for years :S

 

[edie]

Nadya, when one of your player dont come at the scheduled time because he is playing another tournament at the same time you asked wanted to play at, while your opponent canceled irl stuff for make it possible, the minimum is to be sorry and be low profil and not says "stfu" or keep a trashtalk when your opponent are complaining. Hani reaction was understandable, it was really frustrating, although i didnt like all the flame from both, it was unnecessary.


ggs gl next.

 

[miguelzin]

Good games but rubbish attitude from one of the french players. Sad to face so little respect in a small community where people know each other and have been around for years :S

when a team waits your delayed team you should be thankful to them, not judging/blaming their attitudes.

 

[DracKeN]

Good games but rubbish attitude from one of the french players. Sad to face so little respect in a small community where people know each other and have been around for years :S

when a team waits your delayed team you should be thankful to them, not judging/blaming their attitudes.

+1

 

[LB10]

of course its our fault we started late - and i apologized multiple times for that.

but that still doenst justify him acting the way he did - thats why nadya and me got a little pissed too in the end ^^

 

[Influenza]

You can't just say "act the way he did" give me something to sink my teeth into

 

[dogao]

You guys should be thankful for having one person to flame in the enemy team.

Aoc without that is not aoc.

 

[Socksyy]

You can't just say "act the way he did" give me something to sink my teeth into

+1 i had my popcorn ready and by the time i read all the comments it was not even half empty !

 

[pumukel]

This is for flu & letsimprove, because teeth shall not be underused and popcorn shall be eaten:

Thanks to both teams for playing the match through without any further drama after we could start. Thanks to France for not being hardcore about the 15min rule - this is what makes tournaments without AWs possible, Nations Cup owes you <3

The behavior of a certain France player was totally understandable and natural in the situation given. You always have to keep in mind someone could have a bad day or cancelled other important things just for the match. In the same way, Austria's counter reaction was understandable since they could not influence Viper's health or DauT delaying the Rise UP match. Thank god we had mature people like Edie who kept calm and focused on the will to play. The most vocal person on the french side was not even a player but a fan (as it happens often).

 

[Miral]

gg France for these performances in NC ! Beautiful team

 

[Foxtrot]

This is for flu & letsimprove, because teeth shall not be underused and popcorn shall be eaten:

Thanks to both teams for playing the match through without any further drama after we could start. Thanks to France for not being hardcore about the 15min rule - this is what makes tournaments without AWs possible, Nations Cup owes you <3

The behavior of a certain France player was totally understandable and natural in the situation given. You always have to keep in mind someone could have a bad day or cancelled other important things just for the match. In the same way, Austria's counter reaction was understandable since they could not influence Viper's health or DauT delaying the Rise UP match. Thank god we had mature people like Edie who kept calm and focused on the will to play. The most vocal person on the french side was not even a player but a fan (as it happens often).

Since I was one of these "vocal fans", probably even the one vocal fan you are talking about I will allow myself an answer about "maturity".


1)Maturity from Austria side would be to start by apologizing before anything else about the inconvenience. Instead, their very first reaction to Hani's impatience was a very polite and mature "s.t.f.u"


2)a)Maturity from a tournament admin side would be to ask or request someone behaving in a bad way in their eyes to calm down instead of kicking him out of the game room without any reason given


b)Maturity from another (or maybe the same?) tournament admin would be to let things go instead of fueling some more drama by posting unnecessary attacks against an individual which is, as you said, not even part of the tournament 11


Funnily enough, I had voiced my opinion without insulting anyone, you might not have liked what I said but you can't say I showed disrespect to any individual.
But there you go, now since 1) I am an immature and vocal fan, 2) I don't give a flying duck about weither this community likes me or not and 3) I'm not interested enough in "aoc money" to lick every one's butt in order to protect my own interest (11) I will add that if Austria and Admins had given some more consideration to a team who was dedicated enough to respect the engagement they made during scheduling (at Austria's requested time 11) nobody would have had anything to say.
Austria clearly disrespected France team by "playing the clock" and not even apologizing about it and admins disrespected France team and themselves by not following their own rules and making some random admin decision to protect the aoc rising star (you could request 2v2 to be played right after your own set waiting time or request Austria to bring their 4th player who was unable to play and suddenly able to play when the admin decision was made 11).

 

[Poxo]

My popcorn bucket is allready empty, I'm preparing a 5 page refill for further drama.

 

[Tarsiz]

Sad to be French when reading this kind of bs.

But then I remember Edie is French too, and him and this beautiful team make me proud again. ops:

 

[NachoAoE]

All I understood from this post is that Lierey was late, and both teams were bit of a D about it. Pretty mediocre drama, please fuel it more, the troll dude of the post isn't even funny

 

[7Sense]

How can be both France A and VNS B at the 13th place? Am I missing something or is it a typo?

 

[robo]

How can be both France A and VNS B at the 13th place? Am I missing something or is it a typo?

Equal 13th as there are no play offs/position matches this low in the bracket.

 

[bigboned]

man wish i had been there to see what went on. if what this so called "vocal fan" is saying is true i just want to punch lavie_head for posting that.

 

[bulletchen]

man wish i had been there to see what went on. if what this so called "vocal fan" is saying is true i just want to punch lavie_head for posting that.

Jesus... such anger and violence.

 

[Hani_]

All I said is i wanted to play, what is wrong with this? I didn't insult or use any bad words, if you find my words harsh then you should stop going to the internet and gl in real life too, you are the one who told me to stf*.

I don't understand what's the point of your posts, you guys were on fault, won the set and still complain on topic without any of us posting anything. You could atleast explain it all and not only post part of what happened? What is done is done and it doesn't matters now but ok i will just give my point of view to show how hypocrites you both are.

Our games were scheduled at 18gmt sunday, time Austria asked, we wanted earlier time but accepted their time, at 18gmt Lirey was playing another tournement, after more than 30min wait LB10 said teutonic_tanks was coming to play as third to replace Lirey (Lirey was playing 4th game and score was 2:1 for his team), so we said ok and waitted some more 30min, so it's one hour wait now, Lirey g4 end ands they lost it so score is 2-2 and have to play 5th game, and teutonic_tanks was still "coming", France team and admins were pissed and admin said we had to play 2v2 for first game, teutonic_tank showed up in the minute, what a luck!

For more than one hour, you lied in front of my team and admins saying teutonic_tanks was coming just to give time to lirey to end his other tournement, I didn't read any sorry of you or Lirey. If you would have balls you would of say we won't play without Lirey who is nr1 on rated ladder, he is our main, and not playing the clock with teutonic_tanks coming who was most likely hidding on voobly.

1) You broke rules not showing on time
2) You didn't respect us, didn't appologize anything, told me to stf*
3) You kept the lies for more than one hour

If you want to get respect, you should give respect, I wasn't irrespectfull, right now I think you both should really Stf*.

 

[RoR_BzH]

20min -> Screenshot -> AW

But then admins react like this viewtopic.php?f=424&t=66000, so you never know if the admins are going to respect the rules, poZ B learnt it the hard way.

Waiting 1 hour when the maximum time is 20min ... 11 French were really too nice. And then Austrians even dare to complain? Lavie, shame on you.

 

[Lavie_Head]

I don't need balls to say anything and i am sorry your balls are no help in your communication skills.

I never tried to hide from admins that we wanted to play with lierey and we wanted to wait for him to finish the games unless we can't reshedule. I never said anything about tanks and never promised he was coming. You should not make assumptions about things just the way i don't make assumptions about what Edie was talking to admins and what solution he was suggesting. I did not want to bring the topic up for the reason both teams were talking to admins in private which makes the story two-sided and unless someone saved all those conversation we will never see it as a whole from both perspectives.

Lierey was late due to external cause - the tournament he played in was delay almost one hour (Viper could not play, Daut was late). In my opinion this is in no way his or my teams' fault and since France did not want to wait (which i understand; i did not want to sit and wait either) the most mature and fair decision is to reschedule the match. I will not speculate about the reasons France refused to reschedule and if i were an admin i would force the rescheduling as i most fair solution (to my opinion).

I also can't see how this whole sequence of events from you point of view explain your attitude since most of the story unfolded afterwards. My only complaint in this topic concerned the tone of Hani's messages since the very start. I was personally in the room on time and the game was only delayed 10 mins at best at that point. If it would not be for this attitude i might have been the first one to apologize and might have even seen the whole situation differently. Instead i was annoyed and this contributed nothing to solution.

 

[Lavie_Head]

20min -> Screenshot -> AW

But then admins react like this viewtopic.php?f=424&t=66000, so you never know if the admins are going to respect the rules, poZ B learnt it the hard way.

Waiting 1 hour when the maximum time is 20min ... 11 French were really too nice. And then Austrians even dare to complain? Lavie, shame on you.

are you sure you have heard the whole story from both perspectives before you make judgements like that?