Some reassuring news for AoE2 and AoE4 fans by Will, a high up at Microsoft (forgot his exact job title):
Will is the business manager at Worlds Edge for the whole AoE franchise.
Some reassuring news for AoE2 and AoE4 fans by Will, a high up at Microsoft (forgot his exact job title):
You forget that Mbl never bought/played aoe4 to begin with while hated it whole time. When aoe4 launched he started to play WoW same time while complain others playing itView attachment 198716
Now let's call MbL an Aoe4 hater and Nili hater?
Or should we appreciate that at least someone has the courage to speak the truth?
I wonder how will robo insult MBL's idiotic comments and misrepresentations.View attachment 198716
Now let's call MbL an Aoe4 hater and Nili hater?
Or should we appreciate that at least someone has the courage to speak the truth?
Are you forgetting that it affects his income if the game he plays doesn't get good prize pool because of Aoe4?You forget that Mbl never bought/played aoe4 to begin with while hated it whole time
Your point? Facts presented by biased people are still facts.Mbl never bought aoe4 and has hated it whole time
It was general statement, he could said it years ago and still being right. No hard feeling towards kotd .nili disrespect players in kotd, and you know that. its ok if you are his lawer, but there are limits.
They should've invested in AOE4 long before release to get an actual good game.
Instead they released that dumpster fire of a game and now just keep throwing money at it.
You cannot hate game just because it may not benefit you. It's just pointless trashing which you shouldn't use as source as "speaking truth". If you hate game at least provide reasons related to said game based on experience. Mbl was 9-16th in kotd4 but he doesn't hate aoe2 or memb either. His own performance affects his income in this case, maybe he should train more instead of playing WoW and trashing aoe4 for no reasonAre you forgetting that it affects his income if the game he plays doesn't get good prize pool because of Aoe4?
Point is - I don't have to play aoe4 to hate the game if I am convinced that aoe4 is partially hurting my livelihood.
Maybe earning less because of aoe4 is not facts about aoe4 state.He has never played game so he neither has facts if aoe4 is good or notYour point? Facts presented by biased people are still facts.
What's with this deflection for everything?You forget that Mbl never bought/played aoe4 to begin with while hated it whole time. When aoe4 launched he started to play WoW same tine while complain others playing it
Mbl may say fact but truth is he is just hating aoe4 since beginning regardless of if aoe4 is good or not meaning there isn't not much ground in his words. He himself doesn't know if aoe4 is bad or not.Maybe he could have liked aoe4 if he would not had hate and refused to play it from start.Viper or Hera would be better persons to talk about aoe4.What's with this deflection for everything?
What mbl said is fact.
AOE4 came out unfinished, on top of being an inferior product. MS starved the funding for AOE2, to focus on AOE4. And completely killed the momentum of AOE2, which was going the strongest it has ever been.
While the inferior game rightfully crashed and burned.
So, now we have two weak pro scenes for AOE2 and AOE4. AOE4 because of the game itself. AOE2 burned in the aftermath (no pun intended) of AOE4's crash
Masters of Socotra and ROTC say helloIf there is need for tournaments they would be there also without MS money too.
So N4C happens instead of NAC4 and then you rip on aoe2 pros for not being motivated? That's rich.Also pro scene should be more alive before accusing aoe4 and lack of tournaments, ypu don't get tournaments if players do not play
The momentum was created with the funds in the first place. Stop pretending the game would have grown as much as it did without MSs support. And some, if not all, of the spendings were definitely a part of the aoe franchise marketing campaign. (There are also rumours that aom de is on the way.)AOE4 came out unfinished, on top of being an inferior product. MS starved the funding for AOE2, to focus on AOE4. And completely killed the momentum of AOE2, which was going the strongest it has ever been.
As if MS owes you money 111Masters of Socotra and ROTC say hello
So N4C happens instead of NAC4 and then you rip on aoe2 pros for not being motivated? That's rich.
2 tournaments you can play, maybe mbl should play those.proves my point.Masters of Socotra and ROTC say hello
So N4C happens instead of NAC4 and then you rip on aoe2 pros for not being motivated? That's rich.
As anyone who put more than a millisecond of thought into a reply like this would know, World Rumble was for semipros and ROTC pays a grand total of $1500 for the winning team (split 4-5 ways for aM for example).There was world rumble and ROTC at same time so why complain lack of tournaments and unmotivation
Doesn't make them any lesser. They are still tournaments which you are complaining. If you don't want 1500$ tournament there is no need for 150k$. Show interest in them so maybe T90 notices and changes his mind so he can still host HC5 this yearAs anyone who put more than a millisecond of thought into a reply like this would know, World Rumble was for semipros and ROTC pays a grand total of $1500 for the winning team (split 4-5 ways for aM for example).
Because theres no prizepool, MS should be spending money to give us enjoyment. MS promoting aoe2 should definitely not be about the money, oh wait...2 tournaments you can play, maybe mbl should play those.proves my point Pros were unmotivated even before N4C was annouced. There was world rumble and ROTC at same time so why complain lack of tournaments and unmotivation
So MS owes you the money for motivating the players to give you enjoyment, I see I see...As anyone who put more than a millisecond of thought into a reply like this would know, World Rumble was for semipros and ROTC pays a grand total of $1500 for the winning team (split 4-5 ways for aM for example).
At no point did I ever deny that MS funding contributed to the AOE2 momentum.The momentum was created with the funds in the first place. Stop pretending the game would have grown as much as it did without MSs support. And some, if not all, of the spendings were definitely a part of the aoe franchise marketing campaign. (There are also rumours that aom de is on the way.)
How competitive was AoE2 before Age of The Conquerors and how competitive was Starcraft 1 before BroodWar?
AoE4 is not polished and its lacking many features like nice ingame spectator mode. On the other hand its much more stable in performance than AoE2 DE in first months (or even year). People only remember good things in games they love and only bad things in games they hate (or dislike).
And sure some can say AoE2 and SC1 was 20 years ago and those were different times. Yup. Nowadays its common practice to release unfinished game and make money on preorders. I don't like this practice, but Relic/Microsoft did nothing unusual in gamedev nowadays.
If they keep devoloping this game AoE4 can be really nice RTS to play and watch. Will everyone like it then? Of course not. I have many friends from SC2 who think AoE2 is boring as hell. But here we love AoE2. People have diffrent tastes. And its ok to talk about that as long as its not dumb hate speech as we can sometimes see on almost every thread about AoE4.
1) At least we both agree its all just business.At no point did I ever deny that MS funding contributed to the AOE2 momentum.
But, the funds came with a growing organic community, stop pretending like it came out of the blue.
And yes, with the community, came MS funding which created a positive feedback. Hence AOE2 was growing strong.
Not sure what your point is.
Is it that MS funding contributed to the momentum of AOE2? Of course it did.
And they also killed the momentum, but starving it as soon as AOE4 came out. Both are true.
Because theres no prizepool, MS should be spending money to give us enjoyment. MS promoting aoe2 should definitely not be about the money, oh wait...
Absolute clown logic.So MS owes you the money for motivating the players to give you enjoyment, I see I see...
Keep the strawman arguments rollingMoney money. So:
- someone switched to AoE4 = he is evil and sell out himself. Only money matters.
- someone is not playing in Aoe2 tournament with small prizepool = he is ok, love him because he wasn’t switch to AoE4.