MoA3 Grand Final TheViper vs Lojza Pt 1

[swissboyy]

Information

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Fake or duplicated recorded games might be included to not spoil the result by number of games.

Result

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TheViper 4 - 1 Lojza (czech)

(czech) Lojza won G1 (Byzantines vs Byzantines)
TheViper won G2 (Turk vs Turk)
TheViper won G3 (Celts vs Celts)
TheViper won G4 (Turks vs Goth)
TheViper won G5 (Franks vs Franks)

YouTube VOD by Membrillo

Twitch VOD by T90Official
http://www.twitch.tv/t90official/v/47159120

Recorded games

 

[scribe]

Re: MoA3 Grand Final TheViper vs Lojza

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I am confused. Is this Grand Final and there will be a Grand Grand Final after this? Or this is the grand final and I somehow missed the sub Grand Final?

 

[swissboyy]

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Sorry to anyone that posted in the old thread, had to re-do it and couldn't save your comments.
Somehow managed to **** it up on my shitty work laptop on shitty 3G internet...
Changed title for Nili.

 

[swissboyy]

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@ scribe

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Double Elimination means the guy that comes from the lower bracket has to win in two separate games over the guy that got there through the upper bracket final.
TheViper now has won the first Bo7 needed. The second Bo7 will decide the tournament winner.

 

[HighFlyer]

Re: MoA3 Grand Final TheViper vs Lojza

put part 1 in the title

 

[MembTV]

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also here it is the whole series once has been edited, full time the games, no waiting, no delay, just all the games in a row.

Enjoy,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLbSAGjhTa0

 

[Shmolagin]

Re: MoA3 Grand Final TheViper vs Lojza

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put part 1 in the title

That'd be a spoiler!

 

[Influenza]

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Please can you change up the settings or something 11 (if both players agree)

 

[BloodyHunter]

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Please can you change up the settings or something 11 (if both players agree)

Why would Lojza agree that?

 

[Murcio]

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The second Bo7 will decide the tournament winner.

So this is not over yet? I am so confused as well. In the past was only one final game and that's it. Now we have Final, Grand Final, LB Final, from WSVG: Consolidation Final, LB Final, WB Final. I know you are trying to trick a people who watch streams from times to times by putting "Final" in the tittle but you lost my attention. You come to watch a Final and after 2 weeks, same tournament and another final, great. This is the moment when I lost attention and don't care about games any more because can't be sure there will be another final in next 4 weeks.

You are winner or not, I have no idea but good job

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Viper

 

[Zoso]

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The second Bo7 will decide the tournament winner.

So this is not over yet? I am so confused as well. In the past was only one final game and that's it. Now we have Final, Grand Final, LB Final, from WSVG: Consolidation Final, LB Final, WB Final. I know you are trying to trick a people who watch streams from times to times by putting "Final" in the tittle but you lost my attention. You come to watch a Final and after 2 weeks, same tournament and another final, great. This is the moment when I lost attention and don't care about games any more because can't be sure there will be another final in next 4 weeks.

You are winner or not, I have no idea but good job

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Viper

this format was used in 46465 tournaments before and in every moa so far.

It's really not hard to understand. It's DOUBLE elimination. Therefore you have to lose TWICE to be eliminated.

 

[Murcio]

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It's not I am talking about Zoso. I am not saying it's complicated or hard to understand. I am retired AoC player and I am only watch streams from times to times and sometimes post something on AoCZone. I do not follow any tournaments, do not read the rules, not checking brackets etc. Yes, that's exactly the reason why I am so confused and Yes, it's my fault. I expect one simple thing, Final = last and more important game and I think there are more people like me. It's like a football. Not everyone watch every single game but somehow Champions League Final or World Cup Final have a lot more viewers than any match before.

I don't want to only complain so thank's guys for the tournament, streams, and are people are involved into this, you are doing really good job

 

[SiFly]

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It's not I am talking about Zoso. I am not saying it's complicated or hard to understand. I am retired AoC player and I am only watch streams from times to times and sometimes post something on AoCZone. I do not follow any tournaments, do not read the rules, not checking brackets etc. Yes, that's exactly the reason why I am so confused and Yes, it's my fault. I expect one simple thing, Final = last and more important game and I think there are more people like me. It's like a football. Not everyone watch every single game but somehow Champions League Final or World Cup Final have a lot more viewers than any match before.

I don't want to only complain so thank's guys for the tournament, streams, and are people are involved into this, you are doing really good job

It is really confusing that they call it 'final' when there will be another BO7 when viper wins,

You could see it as a BO3 out BO7 in which Lojza starts with 1-0. This should have been a bit more clear.

 

[WallSplash]

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Awesome uploader who switch the POV. It's so boring nowadays when people always put winner POV at the top. It's already spoiled at that point.

 

[go_full_petard]

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Funny how Throwing Axemen decided a series for once.

 

[hdimac]

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It's not I am talking about Zoso. I am not saying it's complicated or hard to understand. I am retired AoC player and I am only watch streams from times to times and sometimes post something on AoCZone. I do not follow any tournaments, do not read the rules, not checking brackets etc. Yes, that's exactly the reason why I am so confused and Yes, it's my fault. I expect one simple thing, Final = last and more important game and I think there are more people like me. It's like a football. Not everyone watch every single game but somehow Champions League Final or World Cup Final have a lot more viewers than any match before.

I don't want to only complain so thank's guys for the tournament, streams, and are people are involved into this, you are doing really good job

Yours looks as an ego post, but actually I have to agree with your critizism, it have been not clear in stream titles and posting rec titles, wether it is the first or second set of the grand final, a lot of people just get there spontaneously and have nto idea of what is going on, and they think those are the last games, because it just says "grand final" and get all confused, adn then they feel tricked, probably just wanted to watch the last games but then find out they "wasted" their time (althought I knew how it worked and enjoyed a lot the stream of the first set). Just putting "grand final 1st set" is pretty much enough to attract people imo, no need to "trick".

 

[kingofthemoon]

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The double elim format is used in every other competitive game,

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at lease the ones I watch

and is the fairest way of deciding the winner. If viper didn't want to play another set, he shouldn't have lost the first time.

Stop complaining, it's not difficult to understand and if these games had been more exciting you'd be loving it that we got another set to watch.

 

[Funito]

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I dont remember a single case in aoc history

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in which the winner of the loser's bracket won the tourney, except when legion "won" WCL 3

 

[Influenza]

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Hopefully in future tournaments the loser bracket doesn't start before the RO16 so there isn't a 1.5 month space between the two finals. I was expecting 2 months, so good job in speeding up the tournament a bit

 

[_ratS]

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I dont remember a single case in aoc history

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in which the winner of the loser's bracket won the tourney, except when legion "won" WCL 3

RUSO... bbc1

 

[7Sense]

Re: MoA3 Grand Final TheViper vs Lojza

I dont remember a single case in aoc history

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in which the winner of the loser's bracket won the tourney, except when legion "won" WCL 3

As far as I remember, that was won by BsK. They won twice.. am I missing something?

 

[RoR_BzH]

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legion vs myst.

 

[Funito]

Re: MoA3 Grand Final TheViper vs Lojza

I dont remember a single case in aoc history

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in which the winner of the loser's bracket won the tourney, except when legion "won" WCL 3

RUSO... bbc1

Ruso came from loser brackets in previous stage if im right, but grand final stage was round robin. I hate having so much memory wasted in aoc ha