[KotD] Banner manipulation and much more

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Switzerlandswissboyy

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VooblyOfficial's Twitch channel grabbed the KotD banner, removed the credit to the people that sponsored the event and used that for their out-of-game overlay.

Original banner: https://i.imgur.com/X33HtVP.png
VOD link: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/201423203
Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/oHqAVpk.jpg

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How to be a gentleman, as demonstrated by ZeroEmpires:
- mentioned who hosted and funded KotD at the start and in between games
- linked to other peoples streaming channels
- hosted Memb after he was done streaming
 

Norwaybuddy__1

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

Zeroempires did this perfectly and gave full credit to memb, swissboy and everone organizing, and encouraged his viewers to watch the games on membs channel even. This brings a way better message across, and shows respect and appreciation to the organizers, which ultimately is giving huge value to the community.

While I don't feel this is the biggest deal ever, I think small acts like this where you bring your baggage to take petty fights is really immature.

Maybe voobly official is trying to send some message across, but it can also be just a weird mistake with a weird explanation and they will pay their respects in the future.

If I was an organizer though and they keep acting like kids like this I would think to myself they can cry me a river and get on with my day lol.
 

UnknownCarlini8

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

Copy the banner because you are too lazy to make your own - fine, it promotes the tournament while improving your stream.

But putting the effort in to remove Memb and supporters from the banner? Actively going out your way to remove the sponsor / sponsor group from the banner? That's low.

I very much like to believe do to others as you wish to be treated. When you go back to Membs cast of the NC he had SY banners all over the place. Basically every video had SY in it, he very much made sure if you watched his stream you were aware the tournament was sponsored by SY.

I guess this isn't really a drama post anyway given the VO channel is basically irrelevant now a days.
 

NetherlandsDirkjan

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

To add to Carlinis post, does anyone know how many viewers VO had?
But yeah great job VO :?
 

GermanyKing_Marv

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

Was it the caster on voobly official or is it voobly official policy ?

Anyway if first they need to think about who they let cast in the future and if it's policy they should think about ethical behave in a community.
 

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

It's also a twitch ToS violation, if the person who created the banner was to submit a report against that VOD.
 

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

Maybe Voobly Offical themselfs can respond to this... the cutting of the banner might be done by one individual. If I would be part of VO I'd rather not have anything to do with this.
I checked the VOD though, 36 views if I'm correct?
 

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

Was it the caster on voobly official or is it voobly official policy ?

Anyway if first they need to think about who they let cast in the future and if it's policy they should think about ethical behave in a community.
Good question, Voobly != VooblyOfficial != VO caster. Both Katsuni and Genette have had fallouts with Memb and might have done that. Though, as Carlini pointed out, VO is pretty irrelevant nowadays anyway, and behaviour like this is part of that.
 

Germanychris_voobly

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

The matter has been dealt with. Sorry for any inconvenience.

And yes, I agree with you guys. It's a simple copyright issue, you do not take someone else' work without giving credit. Also don't assume, that Voobly is doing that on purpose. It was a simple mistake by one of our volunteers. Our next stream will have the original banner.
 

Switzerlandbulletchen

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

The matter has been dealt with. Sorry for any inconvenience.

And yes, I agree with you guys. It's a simple copyright issue, you do not take someone else' work without giving credit. Also don't assume, that Voobly is doing that on purpose. It was a simple mistake by one of our volunteers. Our next stream will have the original banner.
way to kill drama... boring...
 
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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

The matter has been dealt with. Sorry for any inconvenience.

And yes, I agree with you guys. It's a simple copyright issue, you do not take someone else' work without giving credit. Also don't assume, that Voobly is doing that on purpose. It was a simple mistake by one of our volunteers. Our next stream will have the original banner.
way to kill drama... boring...
that feel when people kill your topics for your irrelevant podcast Kappa
 

Switzerlandswissboyy

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

There never was a banner without Memb and supporters on there.
And must be one hell of an accident to crop and stretch the image perfectly to remove credits without noticing.

But whatever, made my point.
 

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

Was there seriously a need to make this topic? Other than create drama, this does nothing that a simple message to the guys in charge wouldn't have done. I understand there's tension between organizers and the Voobly team due to past events, but a little more respect to the only platform that actually allows us to play AoC properly wouldn't hurt, atleast enough to try to clarify the situation before making it public on aoczone.
 

Unknownmogers87

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

Was there seriously a need to make this topic? Other than create drama, this does nothing that a simple message to the guys in charge wouldn't have done. I understand there's tension between organizers and the Voobly team due to past events, but a little more respect to the only platform that actually allows us to play AoC properly wouldn't hurt, atleast enough to try to clarify the situation before making it public on aoczone.
Public shaming is usually the fastest way to make people in the wrong to correct their actions. In many cases, change won't happen without this, e.g. waiting for politicians to hear your messages and fix something, instead of going to the press.
 

UnknownCutht

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Re: [KotD] Super disappointed...

Was there seriously a need to make this topic? Other than create drama, this does nothing that a simple message to the guys in charge wouldn't have done. I understand there's tension between organizers and the Voobly team due to past events, but a little more respect to the only platform that actually allows us to play AoC properly wouldn't hurt, atleast enough to try to clarify the situation before making it public on aoczone.
Thanks for bringing some reason into this thread.
 
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