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Is this beginning of T90 dynasty as a player?

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He carried MBL yesterday in Terra Nova against Nicov and capoch. We are witness history in the making!
 
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ramzes2000 said:
He carried MBL yesterday in Terra Nova against Nicov and capoch. We are witness history in the making!
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If by carried you mean, boomed safely while mbl was disturbing 2 players then yes 11.
Otherwise only if players are forced to let their kings taking nice walks in the sunset.

Obviously t90 is a very good player, but I dont even think that he wants to become a "player", since his viewers mostly enjoy him casting.
 
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I was quite impressed that t90+mbl could win vs nicov+capoch indeed. To be fair it felt like MB was carrying most of it, and they would have lost the set if capoch remembered his king, but still great performance of both.

I hope t90 can get a few more successes so the 't90 memes' in chat will die down whenever he gets mentioned. Chat was a disaster.
 
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no
 
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no
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A humble dynasty ruler, how lucky we are
 
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no
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Have to take the USA cup first
 
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IYIyTh said:
Have to take the USA cup first
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we all know hasan is winning it
 
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You played very good this match not like always
 
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[KoBHV]venivero said:
If by carried you mean, boomed safely while mbl was disturbing 2 players then yes 11.
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That's exactly what happened in masters of Arabia 2v2 when MBL and Viper won. Do you understand what it means?

I should make a statement as an experienced dynasty manager
T90 = Viper and if T90 is in fact Viper which we actually proved, that results in a simple and obvious conclusion that T90's dynasty has ended.

T90's dynasty is over.
 
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willdbeast said:
we all know hasan is winning it
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Daniel? Or has Hasan got all his old skill back?
 
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All of this has been T90 training for USA cup. Just needs to avoid getting COVID for a third time.
 
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USA Next TOP REGION!!!!!!! USA USA USA
 
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I wouldn't say he 'carried' 11. But the fact that he was able to hold his own against Nicov and Capoch was pretty damn impressive
 
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I wouldn't say he 'carried' 11. But the fact that he was able to hold his own against Nicov and Capoch was pretty damn impressive
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T90 was top 100 as a player at some point wasn't he?
 
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I think we all can agree T90 has improved a lot, since he's been grinding hard. I always used to consider him a 2k+ player (even in voobly days) and since he has majorly been casting, we never saw his true potential as a player.

This is the same situation as Nili, and we know how hard the GL boys have been coaching him, and it is evident that there comes a point which separates the top 12 from top 30.

Every top 30 player has on-par decision making and game sense, but it is the execution and pace of the game which separates top 12. (Even more, the top 4 have a way of surviving/holding/coming back which is unprecedented imo)

I would rank Nili as a top 30 player, which means he can take games from top 12 if he plays to his best (Maybe not top 4 as they are a whole another beast)

Coming to T90, I would say if he keeps improving and is in his best shape mechanically, he can be a top 30 player too, which implies he might even take games from top 12 players. But if we are being honest, as it stands, he needs to gain more experience if he wants to consistently hold his own against top 12 players and consistently win top 30 players.

At the top top level, the pace of the game is so fast if you can't keep up (due to execution mistakes, multitasking), your decision making will inevitably start slipping up.

Conclusion : T90 did very well against Nicov - Capoch, but still needs to consistently hold his own against such players.
 
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Battle of the streamers: T90 vs Nili when?
 
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[KoBHV]venivero said:
If by carried you mean, boomed safely while mbl was disturbing 2 players then yes 11.
Otherwise only if players are forced to let their kings taking nice walks in the sunset.

Obviously t90 is a very good player, but I dont even think that he wants to become a "player", since his viewers mostly enjoy him casting.
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That carrying sounds exactly like what Yo and Lyx do
 
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amazing_knight said:
Battle of the streamers: T90 vs Nili when?
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BO21 Nili vs T90, I still give Nili an edge. My predictions would be 11-6 Nili

Nili just has lot more experience against top players. He has handled crazy all-in pressures, or just played against optimal plays. T90, I feel like, would crumble more easily to some aggressive plays, although Nili isn't the most aggressive, micro oriented player and he most likely would want it to go to late game where he feels comfortable, giving T90 a chance to maybe play all in himself. (Thus the 6 wins).
 
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BO21 Nili vs T90, I still give Nili an edge. My predictions would be 11-6 Nili

Nili just has lot more experience against top players.
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Hasn't Nili even won a best of 5 vs Viper when they trained for RBW5? We never got to see the games, but I think it has been confirmed by both of them. Honestly I'm quite impressed how fast Nili got back into the game after playing AoEIV for so long. I think he would be the quite clear favourite between the two, but T90 definitely has a good chance of coming in second in the USA cup. Winning vs Daniel however would be a very difficult task.
 
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Hasn't Nili even won a best of 5 vs Viper when they trained for RBW5? We never got to see the games, but I think it has been confirmed by both of them. Honestly I'm quite impressed how fast Nili got back into the game after playing AoEIV for so long. I think he would be the quite clear favourite between the two, but T90 definitely has a good chance of coming in second in the USA cup. Winning vs Daniel however would be a very difficult task.
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I am just gonna start off by saying, We all have seen Vipers "Imma kill you face", the face he showed during NACs 1 and 2, when he was either losing or down in a set to somehow destroy opponents like liereyy, mbl, tatoh (Like no chance, he destroyed them in dark age bro, kinda like in HC3 when he was Saladin and went Super Saiyan against Hera in the finals)

But, at the risk of downplaying Nili's efforts in that tournament, do we really think Viper was serious when he went into that set? Kappa

There is an argument that Viper doesn't usually go for the immediate kill, rather accumulates small leads throughout the game and macros his way to victory, which could actually play out in Nili's hands as he is most comfortable in imperial age. However, Viper proved everyone wrong, he proved the narrative that "Viper is greedy, he doesn't play all in" to win games wrong in RedBull 5 (most notably, the 1 TC Tatar All in CA play, in which many times he had 2-3 farms, almost wasnt creating any vils yet ended up winning games)

Nili's performance in that GL in-house tournament is commendable, but he is still a level below the other GL players, and definitely even another level below the top 4.
 
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Nili's performance in that GL in-house tournament is commendable, but he is still a level below the other GL players, and definitely even another level below the top 4.
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Totally agree with that. I was not suggesting, that he is better or on par with Viper. For a player that usually around the top 100 on the ladder without significant tournament wins, that is a massive achievement that shows the potential.
 
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T90 was top 100 as a player at some point wasn't he?
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He arguably is right now. He's in the top 100 on the ladder even before you account for the duplicate names there.
 
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He arguably is right now. He's in the top 100 on the ladder even before you account for the duplicate names there.
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Also 90th on the all-time DE ladder. T90 is literally a top 90 player!

Nili is 68th, but a bit rusty, so a streamer contest between them should actually be pretty close right now.
 
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So it is time for 100K MS sponsored streamer tournament then.

Why not?
 
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