he indeed quickly reach 2400 with the aid of tatars that had been recently buffed along with blatant stream cheating vs any streamerWas Badboy the guy who got 2400 out of nowhere and went down few hundred points? Or am I mistaking him for someone else? Just curious since I was recalling some very old things here.
Ah yeah forgot about the whole Tartars thing.he indeed quickly reach 2400 with the aid of tatars that had been recently buffed along with blatant stream cheating vs any streamer
this is a complete lie and you know it. those clips were from after he was accused, not beforeNot sure what Badboy did to @Influenza for him to hold a grudge after all those years.
And the dishonesty with stating "blatant stream cheating" as if it is a fact, while I have presented multiple clips which happened before the match he got accused, showing he's alt-tabbing to place bets. I was in that betting group as well, and it was disbanded shortly after Badboy posting the balance sheet here.
There should be some consequences for people that consistently throwing false accusation around.
My bad, rechecked that thread and I was mistaken.this is a complete lie and you know it. those clips were from after he was accused, not before
i never did that so idk, in fact i did 4 mins or something in one game and right after we changed back to 2. tbh if was up to me i wouldnt care of setting 10 mins. if you not doing something wrong why 10 mins would matter right ?no disrespect, but is it normal for players like you to set a 10 min delay in tournaments for preventing your opponent cheating, and your opponent got some reputation?
in most cases the streamer already has thought about those unit choices anyways. The only one which hurts is when someone in chat reminds the streamer of a missing crucial upgrade that the streamer thought they already researched (like fletching or double bit axe or something like that). That could potentially decide the outcome of the ongoing fights, although this isn't as frowned upon as someone in chat who goes to the opponents stream and gives information to a streamer that his opponent is docking a specific pond or is fast imping or has a hole in the wall somewhere, etc. That I agree is really badImo backseating / coaching in ladder games is fine as long as they dont get extra info outside of the players POV, I mean there are **** ton of 3k pros giving streamers tips in twitch chat with very little delay anyway. Its unacceptable in tourneys tho, at least for now.
"Don't forget about the idle vil,"in most cases the streamer already has thought about those unit choices anyways. The only one which hurts is when someone in chat reminds the streamer of a missing crucial upgrade that the streamer thought they already researched (like fletching or double bit axe or something like that). That could potentially decide the outcome of the ongoing fights, although this isn't as frowned upon as someone in chat who goes to the opponents stream and gives information to a streamer that his opponent is docking a specific pond or is fast imping or has a hole in the wall somewhere, etc. That I agree is really bad
I think hanging out in a huge voice call is very common in the Vietnamese community and because of that, unless we get the vods translated, there is not that much we can prove in terms
With the pandemic, people has been moving to Discord as a virtual internet-cafe, bring along their internet-cafes culture. High-level players in the community often stream their matches, whether it's a private lobby, ladder or tournament, for others to watch. Again it's mostly an honor system when the fans know to stay silent when it matters.
2. Currently, the economy has developed, and it is not too difficult for a person to buy themselves a computer to play games at home, because the number of AOE2 Vietnam players is old so they like to stream their pov in discord and interact with everyone there.
3. After talking to everyone in the Discord group, they told me that they didn't know and didn't think that streaming discord while playing was not allowed.
First, ACCM is never in that discord when he's playing in tournament. I don't think he's ever streamed on Twitch while playing in tournament as well (unless the organizer wants him to)The vietnamese players surely are getting off very easily with their offences.
Denying songsong from RBW Q2 is definetly a step in a good direction, but it still feels like a one-off decision by chrazini fueled by reports from significant players, and not some collective realisation of the situation. Whether its an attempt at not appearing rascist or some child overprotective approach (since they all kinda look 15 yo), i do not know.
Songsong is a confirmed thief and very shady dude at this point, badboy and mr. bean confirmed spec cheaters, all still at large. The others, i have no evidence to say anthing bad. Giving them the benefit of the doubt (referring to up commentors) is kinda silly and naive at best.
A few years back, when things were technically "more" leniant, I can remember @VODKA_L_ getting absolutely shitstormed for receiving an insignificant "aiding" message (singular) from darkdevil during a tournament game. Now apparently its ok for someone to stream their tournament games and talk to his friends because it's part of the culture? This is absolutely a double standard and a farce by all means (comments below). ACCM, who is a well established top contender with MASSIVE international tournament experience, is a part of this vietnameses community. The fact ACCM engages with them on voice/ in tournaments as a team, while maintaining this shield over them of constant unawarness of rule violating, is hypocritical at best.
While not all @100Dragonstar posted screenshots are reasonable proof, for instance Tiequoy appears to be voice/sound muted while playing ( https://i.imgur.com/MokE8I0.png ),
whereas mr. bean and songsong have everything activated
( https://imgur.com/LLWJVpO ).
Receiving aid in-between games is ok. U can definetly consult people about strategy or pick choices before or after the game. U definetly should not do that during the game which constitutes cheating.
Summing up, I would expect at least songsong to receive at least some suspension from tournaments. If its 6 months, a year, it's not for me to decide. Lack of any collective significant retribution for his actions which at this point include stealing, scamming, cheating, ladder manipulation etc. is a big middle finger to people looking for just and honest competition.
Smaller tournament hosts and admins definetly look for guidance in such matters from the established influencial ones (E.g. t90, nili, memb, Huehuecoyotl22, chrazini, robo), whom if they wished can just either on their own or collectivly decide to suspend songsong from their tournaments for a certain period, and i'm sure the others would follow.
(my post has nothing to do with stark post)
Dunno about other communities a whole lot, but I find this one much better than the Dark Souls or the chess community. Or maybe it’s just me having bad luck (or something wrong with me?).Simply everyone's nice and awesome.
Well, no, never has been, never will be.