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I am a cheater.

  • Thread starter KazakhstanGod
  • Start date Sep 20, 2022
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United KingdomKing_Boo

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IYIyTh said:
Came here for this.

Cheating is a pretty serious accusation.

Unless it's #ertugconfirmed probably best to hold off on any assumption of guilt until there is convincing evidence.
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even when there is evidence, badboy can still play in tournaments
 
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Tocaraca said:
Where is the proof?
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IYIyTh said:
Came here for this.

Cheating is a pretty serious accusation.

Unless it's #ertugconfirmed probably best to hold off on any assumption of guilt until there is convincing evidence.
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The proof is in any of his rescent recs, he knows where enemy res are, he can control your vills and make them stop working, and many other things, people like me, moonfaller, yellowjacket, t90 and others that have played against him know this.

He's was using the cheats that someone was selling on this site (now the thread is closed obviously, they are aware that people found this site, but you can still read the comments/reviews that people left in the thread): https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/trading/5041417-age-empires-2-de-multihack-rage.html

Using "way back machine" you can still see what the original post said (there was even a video example of the hacks). Comparing the hacks that were offered on that thread with "Drill Time" recs you can definitely see what he was up to:​

Screenshot (203).png
 
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IYIyTh said:
Came here for this.

Cheating is a pretty serious accusation.

Unless it's #ertugconfirmed probably best to hold off on any assumption of guilt until there is convincing evidence.
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It's literally the same guy who posted a YouTube link back in January playing under the name "Drill Time", and confirmed by Moonfaller to be the same player as "MoonKiller" and "U NO WOOD", accounts which are clearly using some form of map hacks and the idle vil hack.

You yourself commented in both those previous threads...
 
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King_Boo said:
even when there is evidence, badboy can still play in tournaments
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hi, i work for Meta helping to run the Vietnamese servers for Facebook Messenger chat and I can confirm that BadBoy sent messages that align perfectly with the alt-tabs of his stream in December 2020. So please enough of the false accusations, it is like insulting a gamer
 
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@Ozone This link to hack you provided was posted june 2022. I've been facing vs you on ladder dozen of times over past few years. Have you experienced villager idling, army delete or any other stuff indicated there when you played vs me?
 
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God said:
@Ozone This link to hack you provided was posted june 2022. I've been facing vs you on ladder dozen of times over past few years. Have you experienced villager idling, army delete or any other stuff indicated there when you played vs me?
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It's known that this is not the first thread like this, there's been more people selling this type of hacks in past months or even more, me and the others that have played against you know what you're up to my friend. :smile:
 
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KazakhstanGod

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Ozone said:
It's known that this is not the first thread like this, there's been more people selling this type of hacks in past months or even more, me and the others that have played against you know what you're up to my friend. :smile:
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nice excuses you've come up with :smile: maybe harsh truth to handle, but you my friend lost fair and square on almost every single occasion you faced me
 
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NuclearPasta said:
It's literally the same guy who posted a YouTube link back in January playing under the name "Drill Time", and confirmed by Moonfaller to be the same player as "MoonKiller" and "U NO WOOD", accounts which are clearly using some form of map hacks and the idle vil hack.

You yourself commented in both those previous threads...
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Do you expect me to have encyclopedic knowledge of everyone's aka's or total recall of AOEzone?

I have to efficiently post to live rent free in peoples heads.
 
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IYIyTh said:
Do you expect me to have encyclopedic knowledge of everyone's aka's or total recall of AOEzone?

I have to efficiently post to live rent free in peoples heads.
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yes i do
 
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On topic, it does seem that in least two games a user @HappyLeaves was able to discern odd, sequential stop-hack being utilized with an aka of the OP.

The nature of AOE2 is it does not discern who sends the command, only that the command is given. Obviously, people aren't going to be using the stop command at frequent intervals, so rather suspicious.
 
Tempires

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Ozone said:
It's known that this is not the first thread like this, there's been more people selling this type of hacks in past months or even more, me and the others that have played against you know what you're up to my friend. :smile:
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It's the same hack as what was posted here 1-2 years ago but this guy has either updated it with new features & work with new patches OR he just steals hack after every update
 
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This will go down in the anals of history.
 
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i_no_english said:
I am on Hans' side btw.
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Rayne said:
Well it was dying down until Magnus had to resign on move 2 the other day... which revived it.
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On the Magnus-Hans drama, see this analysis (pure data and stats): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG9XeSPflrU&ab_channel=ChessfanMWP

An analysis of some of the most important games which earned Hans his GM title shows a centipawn loss of <10 which is extremely unlikely for a human. What's even more interesting is that it shows a centipawn loss of <10 with an older version of Stockfish (the most recent at the time of the game) but shows a higher centipawn loss using the newer versions (Stockfish 14 and so on).

On top of that is Magnus's reference (interview on Chess24 today) to Hans's mentor Max Dlugy who suddenly stopped playing Titled Arena 4-5 years back (see here). Now feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Imo - the whole innocent until proven guilty view is all fine but in the case of Hans Niemann, it seems to be a clear case of cheating on multiple occasions (by his own admission). The only question is to what extent and how!
 
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amazing_knight said:
On the Magnus-Hans drama, see this analysis (pure data and stats): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG9XeSPflrU&ab_channel=ChessfanMWP

An analysis of some of the most important games which earned Hans his GM title shows a centipawn loss of <10 which is extremely unlikely for a human. What's even more interesting is that it shows a centipawn loss of <10 with an older version of Stockfish (the most recent at the time of the game) but shows a higher centipawn loss using the newer versions (Stockfish 14 and so on).

On top of that is Magnus's reference (interview on Chess24 today) to Hans's mentor Max Dlugy who suddenly stopped playing Titled Arena 4-5 years back (see here). Now feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Imo - the whole innocent until proven guilty view is all fine but in the case of Hans Niemann, it seems to be a clear case of cheating on multiple occasions (by his own admission). The only question is to what extent and how!
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Dunno much about that link or if that is the guy Danya mentioned that did some analysis and has a good rep of catching cheaters. I know there are suspicions about his rise of 200 pts OTB in less than or around 2 years. But then with that, I happened to be around when Alireza had no title online and got banned, then when he was an IM and got banned again (?), then saw his legit rise to one of best online blitz/bullet players to #2 OTB, so it is hard to tell imo. Like I also don’t know much about Wesley So, but I remember he was once called the fastest improving player in the world when he hit 2800? Think it was a record and may have been suspicions with him but he was legit.

I actually didn’t know Dlugy was Han’s’ mentor. I happened to be there the next day hearing about his ban after Titled Tuesday. It’s a shame tbh. I remember he was one of the first GMs if not the first on chess.com to be playing the London regularly before it started taking off (may have had a hand in popularizing it?).

Not much else to say about the Han’s’ stuff though since you quoted me. Only since I have been notified of cheaters online from ratings of 1800 (my first incident) to someone being a max of 2400 or 2500, hard to know. Most of them I thought were legit on the whole with the exception of a few ‘super strong moves’ when I played them. So not sure what to think really. Online cheating is different than OTB though, which I don’t have experience with.
 
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T90Official said:
OP is absolutely a cheater btw, it's verified on dozens of recs. Known as "drill time, u no wood" and a few other names and spends a great deal of time harrassing his opponents in and out of game. It's not just the fog of war hacks, but other things as well that he was stupid enough to use recently. It will be interesting to see what happens after a ban because I imagine a player who is toxic & only knows how to vill rush should be pretty easy to spot if they create new accounts.
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So the anal beads do work. Good to know.
 
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zShades

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Shame on you Ozone, losing every single game vs a Cheater. Learn how to play better my friend, or you will get more public humilations in the future
 
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Isn't Drill Time the hero of Pooplord?

Ahh - I get it @God is Pooplord. 11.
 
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paradox303 said:
Who are you?
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He's quite obviously Morgan Freeman mixing up two of his characters.
 
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Actually I played vs this guy twice in a row during a twitch streaming. I was sure he was aware of every villager in my economy, he played extremely toxic with berbers vill war and he was able to find me around the map in every place I was moving. It was obvious he was using some cheat, glad that at least he admits this.
 
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I feel like I face a cheater once every 5th game or so. Have the amount of cheaters increased lately?
 
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