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Hidden Cup 3 Main Event is here!

  • Thread starter United StatesT90Official
  • Start date Mar 17, 2020
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I'm excited to announce Hidden Cup 3 will be casted using an overlay created by the Capture Age team! The Hidden Cup 3 overlay was designed and built specifically for Hidden Cup 3 and I have been funding the development time. They are hoping to make a more generally usable version of the overlay available to others at some time in the future, but they cannot make any guarantees. I will be posting videos using this over the next few days and feedback is very much appreciated as we close in on Hidden Cup 3!

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Players​

vn ACCM
es Antagonist
vn BacT
rs DauT
br dogao
br F1Re
ca Hera
at Liereyy
no MbL
ar Nicov
es TaToH
fi TheMax
no TheViper
fi Villese
cn Vivi
cn Yo

Charlemagne
King Sancho
Joan The Maid
Bad Neighbor
Leif Erikson
Princess Yodit
Kotyan Khan
Sheriff of Nottingham
Saladin
Friar Tuck
Alaric The Goth
Vlad Dracula
Henry The Lion
William The Conqueror
Charles Martel
Emperor in a Barrel

Bracket​

https://challonge.com/hiddencup3

You can place a prediction for which heroes you think will make it through and win here!

There will be a guessing competition on the final day where you can place your guesses as to which player is which Hero!!

Timeline​

Thursday 19th: 14gmt Ro16
Friday 20th: 14gmt Ro16
Saturday 21st: 14gmt Quarterfinals
Sunday 22nd: 14gmt Semifinals & Live Grand Final

Prizepool​

Total = $56,830

Main Event

1st = $13,560
2nd = $8,540
3rd/4th = $4,520
5th-8th = $2,260
9th-16th = $1,256

Qualifiers
Top 8 = $300
9th-16th = $200
17th-32nd = $100

Showmatches
5 showmatches for $200 each

Event Funding​

Microsoft = $50,000
Oracle455 = $1,000
Anonymous = $2,000
fathertres = $5,000
MattJustSalsa = $1,500
T90Official =1$ for each Twitch Subscriber (total subcount at conclusion of HC3)

From Microsoft's contribution $35,000 will be used towards the prizepool and the remaining amount will cover costs & promotions for the event. For HC2 I spent roughly $10,000 out of pocket and Microsoft's generosity will ensure all parties involved in HC3 get paid for their work without extreme stress on my part. I am contributing $1 per Twitch Subscriber at conclusion of HC3 (minimum of $5,000), meaning current and future supporters of the channel contribute towards the event.
 
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  • GermanyÜberrushung

  • Mar 17, 2020
  • #26
JohnJK said:
Oh, that overlay is an improvement in DE, but almost a step back compared to the overlay in HC2, which was great. But I get it. I don't have any ideia of the technical difficulties of making something like that and can only thank the CA guys for messing around with it yet again.
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i think because it's not actually CA for DE but rather an elaborate overlay, just like nili used for NAC3.
 
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  • FinlandSpringoftheking

  • Mar 17, 2020
  • #27
Just watched Two castles -video. CA for DE looks good, maybe little messy. Hope that upgrades would be shown whole time.
 
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  • Colombiachenteparap

  • Mar 17, 2020
  • #28
Hello T90, thank you very much for this great tournament format, a little question, what was the criteria for choosing the position of the hidden participants? totally random?
 
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  • United StatesT90Official

  • Mar 17, 2020
  • #29
Thanks for the feedback on the casting overlay everyone!


Überrushung said:
i think because it's not actually CA for DE but rather an elaborate overlay, just like nili used for NAC3.
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Yes, but no. The overlay which Nili used is an in game mod (you may have seen myself and others using it since then) but the HC3 casting overlay uses an in game mod and an additional program as it is far more involved.

I am not a spokesman by any means for Capture Age, but the big difference with that was they essentially reproduced what was going on in a game in real time in their own program, which allowed the infinite levels of zoom and what not. Whereas here we are still confined to the limits within DE2 and all controls are done within the game.
 
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  • GermanyÜberrushung

  • Mar 17, 2020
  • #30
Ah, interesting. Just to make sure, it definitely wasn't meant as a criticism, the overlay looks great. Does it fix the speed issue, too?
 
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  • United StatesT90Official

  • Mar 17, 2020
  • #31
Überrushung said:
Ah, interesting. Just to make sure, it definitely wasn't meant as a criticism, the overlay looks great. Does it fix the speed issue, too?
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I didn't take it as criticism my friend! The speed issues of DE are largely due to DE itself. Since we are doing recorded games for 95% of this event there will be no speed issues (yet another thing in the plus column for recs :P) Despite MS claiming the issues were fixed in the latest patch it definitely was not, we're game planning so it's hopefully not a concern for the finals.
 
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  • United StatesT90Official

  • Mar 17, 2020
  • #32
I just created my bracket prediction for Hidden Cup 3! TAKE A LOOK!

I have King Sancho and Princess Yodit running rampant in the top half of the bracket. Only for King Sancho (Dave's favorite) to get destroyed by some sneaky strategies Princess had prepared in the semi finals. In the bottom half of the bracket Emperor in a Barrel shows no mercy and sweeps every single opponent until the Grand Finals. The Grand Finals goes to the 7th game and Princess Yodit loses in a 5 hour long brits vs khmer hideout game.

Emperor in a Barrel is champion and is later revealed to be DauT, while Princess Yodit was Hera(turns out Viper was Charles Martel who lost 3-0 to DauT in R1. What a surprise!!)

All Hail "Emperor" DauT.

You can create your own prediction bracket here!
 
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  • PortugalMaSmOrRa

  • Mar 17, 2020
  • #33
The top post on CS:GO's subreddit is about "our" Hidden Cup!!!

Hope that brings a couple new viewers too!

Reddit - Dive into anything

www.reddit.com www.reddit.com
 
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  • ArgentinaChainsaw

  • Mar 18, 2020
  • #34
T90Official said:
I am not a spokesman by any means for Capture Age, but the big difference with that was they essentially reproduced what was going on in a game in real time in their own program, which allowed the infinite levels of zoom and what not. Whereas here we are still confined to the limits within DE2 and all controls are done within the game.
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Man, these guys are legends. Imagine making such a great overlay and spending (as you said) thousands of hours for free. That in itself is ridiculous. Then up comes Microsoft and uproots the community and in a way, it seems the work went to waste. But these guys are back at it again. Praise for their work cannot be overstated.
 
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  • Germanyn0brain

  • Mar 18, 2020
  • #35
Thanks for all the feedback guys :love2:

- regarding the bottom: it will be designed to work with T90s OBS overlay in the tournamen and be (hopefully :D) way less bulky and intrusive.
- regarding the top: between playernames there will be additional matchinfo like score, Bo5, winhistory etc, see our reddit post for reference.
- sizing wise: we tried to make something that works for mobile users as well since this is a big event and will have many viewers on youtube/twitch with some using lower resolutions and smaller screens.

greetings and good fun from the CA team :giggle:
 
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  • Germanyn0brain

  • Mar 18, 2020
  • #36
RichNixon said:
I suspect this is due to a limitation of how the in-game overlay works - many panels aren't able to be resized.
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no it was just still WIP. it will look (hopefully :D ) much better in the main event.
 
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  • Germanyn0brain

  • Mar 18, 2020
  • #37
Überrushung said:
i think because it's not actually CA for DE but rather an elaborate overlay, just like nili used for NAC3.
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well it is more advanced than that since its not just a json mod with the ingame ui, but an external application. enabling us to show stuff like unitproduction and researches like we want to, toggle stuff, and do custom stats like value %g, resources over time etc. and i dont believe u can show info of multiple players at the same time with the ingame modding system
 
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  • Belgiumoozkan

  • Mar 18, 2020
  • #38
T90Official said:
Despite MS claiming the issues were fixed in the latest patch it definitely was not
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  • PortugalMaSmOrRa

  • Mar 19, 2020
  • #39
30 minutes in, already 23k viewers.

Thx DE.
 
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  • Norwaybuddy__1

  • Mar 19, 2020
  • #40
MaSmOrRa said:
30 minutes in, already 23k viewers.

Thx DE.
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Thx corona
 
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  • Austriateutonic_tanks

  • Mar 19, 2020
  • #41
34k already wtf

EDIT: is there already somewhere a place to bet on which hero is who?
 
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  • ItalyMemeluke

  • Mar 19, 2020
  • #42
Now more people are watching HC3 than guys who tested positive for Covid-19 in Italy POG
 
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  • FranceMiral

  • Mar 19, 2020
  • #43
I'll be clear.

the overlay is A M A Z I N G
 
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  • AustriaClemensor

  • Mar 19, 2020
  • #44
Considering the viewer numbers 50k is starting to seem like a bargain for Microsoft 11

Also: 2nd biggest stream on twitch atm
 
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  • Mar 19, 2020
  • #45
5 seconds before the stream even started :smile:
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  • UnknownLanchi

  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #46
Anyone remember that how many poll in HC2 round one were correct?
 
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  • GermanyÜberrushung

  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #47
First day was amazing, great games and the overlay is fantastic. Only change I would like to see is that T90 doesn't give his guesses right as the polls are happening and rather waits till the chat has given their guesses. What he says always has a dramatic effect on the polls.
 
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  • GermanyMichaerbse

  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #48
Lanchi said:
Anyone remember that how many poll in HC2 round one were correct?
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Don't know but I think DauT had won every single poll in HC2 :wink:

I had the same thought though and will definitely check it for HC3...
 
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  • Brazilmiguelzin

  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #49
So naiice
 
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  • AustriaThePr0phet

  • Mar 20, 2020
  • #50
I have a totally stupid question but what if someone shared his account with another guy and let him play instead? how could they prevent that?

i know it is 99,99% not happening just curious
 
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