Help us record the dialogue of the new civilizations

[Pancrol]

We are almost done porting two of the new indian civilizations into Voobly's Community Patch but we are missing an important part of the code that is not that easy to find in the game files: the dialogue lines from the units.

Because of that, I'd like to ask anyone who has access to the new civilizations in DE to record the dialogue and send it to us, so that we can extract the lines and program them in the Community Patch. What follows is a detailed description of what we need.

The easiest thing is to record the screen of the game alongside the audio, so it's easy to see what order is being given. I personally use OBS Studio but any other screen recording program should work.

1. Start a game in a map with water (Islands) in Castle Age, All visible and Infinite resources.
2. Turn off the music.
3. Be sure to have one villager of each sex or create more.
4. Build a Farm, a Barracks, a Monastery and a Siege Workshop.
5. Create a foot soldier, a monk and a mangonel.
6. Use the mangonel's attack ground to damage one of the buildings.
7. Pause the game in order to stop ambient sounds.
8. For a villager of each sex, do the following orders.
   1. Four random greetings. Click on them several times so they say all.
   2. Four random movement commands.
   3. Build.
   4. Lumberjack.
   5. Work on already built farm.
   6. Fish.
   7. Berry gathering.
   8. Hunt.
   9. Mine gold or stone.
   10. Repair building.
9. For the soldier, do the following commands:
   1. Three random greetings.
   2. Three random movement commands.
   3. Three random attack commands.
10. For the monk, do the following commands:
    1. Three random greetings.
    2. Three random movement commands.

If you can do this for Dravidians or Bengalis, contact me to send me the video.

Thanks a lot for your help.

 

[ProudObuch]

The fact alone that the DE devs don't give it to you, even though you need a proven installation of the game on steam shows how they care about aoe2 veterans or people who are too poor to have a PC that runs DE (and maybe want good score so they can play ranked).

 

[AttilaTheHun]

This first posts sound like "I want to piracy aoe2de. Who can help me?"

 

[oozkan]

Is this even legal, I mean sounds are copyrighted, right? You can put a 100 hour wololo youtube video etc, MS probably won't chase it since it helps the game but asking to record files for commercial usage, doesn't sound right.

Not that I care though, just a warning.

 

[Pancrol]

Is this even legal, I mean sounds are copyrighted, right? You can put a 100 hour wololo youtube video etc, MS probably won't chase it since it helps the game but asking to record files for commercial usage, doesn't sound right.

Not that I care though, just a warning.

You can reuse the games assets to create mods, that is permited.

 

[AttilaTheHun]

You can reuse the games assets to create mods, that is permited.

You don't want to mod aoe2de. Aoe2de is not compatible with Voobly.

 

[GorLeon]

Is this even legal, I mean sounds are copyrighted, right? You can put a 100 hour wololo youtube video etc, MS probably won't chase it since it helps the game but asking to record files for commercial usage, doesn't sound right.

It's not commercial usage, it's fair use imho. Nobody is gonna profit from this, it's a community patch which anyone can use for free.

 

[MadeByJoe]

It's not commercial usage, it's fair use imho. Nobody is gonna profit from this, it's a community patch which anyone can use for free.

This is a common misconception. You can't just use something and call fair use because you don't earn money with it. Fair use is more like a "quote right" if you create something new with it, like an analysis. Otherwise you could put any music on YouTube as long as you don't put adds on it. Also Spain has no fair use, it has cases which are exempt from copyright such as using works for teaching in school.

Now, Voobly ripped Microsoft assets for many years and they are well aware. Without studying the terms for modding etc, I guess Microsoft is fine with it.

 

[HongeyKong]

https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-17-copyrights/17-usc-sect-107.html


Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A , the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.  In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include--

(1)  the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

(2)  the nature of the copyrighted work;

(3)  the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole;  and

(4)  the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

 

[MadeByJoe]

https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-17-copyrights/17-usc-sect-107.html


Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A , the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.  In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include--

(1)  the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

(2)  the nature of the copyrighted work;

(3)  the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole;  and

(4)  the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

Not sure if you are arguing fair use applies or not?

 

[Sextilidan]

Not sure if you are arguing fair use applies or not?

Sounds to me like it would not fall under one of the allowed purposes.

 

[GrandNagus]

Wow, a lot of Microsoft lawyers in this thread.

I was looking into sound modding and was also trying to locate the original sound files, never thought to just record them straight out of the game. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Pancrol]

Wow, a lot of Microsoft lawyers in this thread.

I was looking into sound modding and was also trying to locate the original sound files, never thought to just record them straight out of the game. Thanks for the tip.

Glad I incidentally helped.