This is so infuriating because a large part of me actually wants to get them all wrong, so that I'm more surprised come the reveal...
I think the reason I pick Ivaylo as Viper is,My only difference with your list is Admiral and Ivaylo, which I believe are Viper and Jordan respectively.
Historically Viper has had a very "easy" time vs BacT in tournaments, so I'm hoping the Edward vs Ivaylo set will give us some answers today.
I just wanted to say that even though typically hidden cup being "hidden" is probably my least favorite aspect of it, you guys alone with your predictions & analysis made it just so much more interesting, so thank you very much!
At the same time though, I swear to god if you make me have hopes that JorDan won his R1 and it ends up being a repeat of HC2 111
Was Ivaylo really that convincing?
Was Ivaylo really that
I think that beating King 3:0 was much easier, than beating templar(mbl) 3:1, so i dont think thats a valid argumentWell i'd say Jordan isn't expected to 3-0 any of the other 15 players so would be a big result either way for him. Ivaylo looked pretty solid, but then again Bela didn't seem to have his best day.
After rewatching the set briefly Ivaylo still looks like it could be Viper playing sloppy/messing around to me.
Todays sets should give us a better idea.
Smartest comment out of all.Well i'd say Jordan isn't expected to 3-0 any of the other 15 players so would be a big result either way for him. Ivaylo looked pretty solid, but then again Bela didn't seem to have his best day.
After rewatching the set briefly Ivaylo still looks like it could be Viper playing sloppy/messing around to me.
Todays sets should give us a better idea.
I can't think of a better way for Viper to show he feels comfortable than trolling.We need to stop assuming Viper could be trolling, I think. He's coming into HC4 with a point to prove.
We need to stop assuming Viper could be trolling, I think. He's coming into HC4 with a point to prove.
The fun fact is, if the current guesses are somewhat correct, both Admiral and Ivaylo play a Vietnamese opponent. If you remember Vipers comments from HC3 first round about how the server told him it's ACCM or BacT and check his playstyle that followed (war elephants...), the strongest indicator for which one of the two is Viper and which is Jordan will be the amount of memeing and tryharding in those to series today.
And I'll bet, Admiral will play serious and Ivaylo will have a bit more wackiness today
Why would Asian player be forced to play on UK West against European?
Oh yeah my bad, I read played instead.I think he means Admiral will play a Vietnamese player in the quarters!
That's a great detail to pick up on, any other interesting comments from Mr Yo that jumped out? The player perspectives are usually the most interesting (e.g. Slam and Nil on T90s stream).I have exactly the same list as yours. Also mryo said viper is most likely Ivaylo instead of admiral because the former uses 1 vil to build each barrack while the latter grabs 4 to bulid one.
Warwolf ACCM Cross gameplay was typically ACCM, the drafts suggested a mixed-preparer of a player coming from Qualifiers. Jacqueline Barles Straight Ara-clones map draft, banning Islands where mechanically more proficient players shine. Admiral Yi Sun Shin Viper (/Viper) G1 had Viper doing some abrakadabra chat to please the audience including bact-pause, while maintaining a excellent macro execution, which he retained across the games. Typical castles. GL HMs+HM strats. Goldrush Britons seemed too strong to be anyone else, being both typical and amazing decision-making wise, clinical. Master of Templar MbL Mongol pick on arabia, overall favor of knights civs throughout draft, SQ-like macro qualities. GoldRush aM'-style straight genitours. Oh, I think he was housed. Harald Hardraade Vinchester Quite self-explanatory. civs, style, micro focus, excess of Box formation. Sundjata Yo Solid overall, typical clean decision making, no fancy micro, defensive aggression. Pope Leo I Villese Unfortunately... I think. This had some typical low-effective APM army management, a strong arabia performance. A whole bunch of small things, typical gate among them. Out-araskill:ing Gonzalo on the Quali-practiced maps like Slopes, but getting outmacroed on lategame maps, resulting in a sad day for me, no Tori to come . Gonzalo DauT (/Jordan) Style defined this one as a macroplayer aiming to lategame, and dying in the process twice to better early/midgame execution/decisions. Many of you might question Turks, but let me remind you that it is a top CA civ, which just happens to align with memes of Lord DauT, so it MUST be right, yes? Also full-recognition of GL strats, practice partner of presumably Tatoh like so many times before. Also no boar TC shooting, I guess t90 might like that to be said so his stats hold. Zero eco micro.
King Bela IV | Dogao | This was in fact one of the last "confirmed", took a few times to check VODs, but Dogao's dark age was there. Tatars pick on arabia is something I have seen Dogao do before, and there were dark age characteristics such as woodline micro timing (believe it or not), and houses creation. |
Ivaylo | Jordan | GL strats recognized, fwd vill action on Mudflow mirrored that of his likely practice partner TheViper (they clearly had theorized this as antiFranks), well played by Jordan. |
Cobra Car | Vivi | Fwds. From drafted maps, civs, and having similarities with Yo. |
Edward Longshanks | BacT | Well, here was BacT civs, BacT pause, legitimate BacT eng. Franks on Arabia. Typical Frankish dark age house+mill. |
Le Loi | TaToH | Very high level of play, Sanctity monks, creative strats. Gl strats recognized, practice partner of DauT, Mudflow shared Indians and also Opening+base design (lol). None other GL member fits here vs Hera anyways, Viper would obviously reminisce from HC3 and destroy and his draft would be different. Heavy demos. Apparently Noob Host, playing on HC3_islands (?). |
John the Fearless | Hera | Micro nerding like no tomorrow, APM-monster macro, loudmouthing OMG, build style, Bay Italians (copied from Liereyy, or it's an aM' thing). This was pretty clear and many immediately recognized. |
Philip the Good | Liereyy | Draft archer-focus. Typical walling-timings. Army usage so Liereyy, keeping up the engagement against odds several times, eg. xbows vs mango+xbows, trust in the |
Little John | Nicov | FeelsBad for Nicov facing Liereyy so fast, he was playing great. Water-focus on draft a bit. |
You should be out of your mind if u think Jordan can 3-o Dogao in any kind of setOk, Masmorra sadly beat me to it so there's little to be gained in waiting, here goes. Aoezone Likes supersede any Guess contest prizes anyways and I don't watch T90 streams normally due timezone differences, so GG GL it is.
(The explanations are a bit too varied and some are feeling-based from styles so I might edit in stuff gradually, also something needs to be left for discussion)
King Bela IV Dogao This was in fact one of the last "confirmed", took a few times to check VODs, but Dogao's dark age was there. Tatars pick on arabia is something I have seen Dogao do before, and there were dark age characteristics such as woodline micro timing (believe it or not), and houses creation. Ivaylo Jordan GL strats recognized, fwd vill action on Mudflow mirrored that of his likely practice partner TheViper (they clearly had theorized this as antiFranks), well played by Jordan. Cobra Car Vivi Fwds. From drafted maps, civs, and having similarities with Yo. Edward Longshanks BacT Well, here was BacT civs, BacT pause, legitimate BacT eng. Franks on Arabia. Typical Frankish dark age house+mill. Le Loi TaToH Very high level of play, Sanctity monks, creative strats. Gl strats recognized, practice partner of DauT, Mudflow shared Indians and also Opening+base design (lol). None other GL member fits here vs Hera anyways, Viper would obviously reminisce from HC3 and destroy and his draft would be different. Heavy demos. Apparently Noob Host, playing on HC3_islands (?). John the Fearless Hera Micro nerding like no tomorrow, APM-monster macro, loudmouthing OMG, build style, Bay Italians (copied from Liereyy, or it's an aM' thing). This was pretty clear and many immediately recognized. Philip the Good Liereyy Draft archer-focus. Typical walling-timings. Army usage so Liereyy, keeping up the engagement against odds several times, eg. xbows vs mango+xbows, trust in the ForceMicro. Shared Tempo-pick for Cup, Britons.Little John Nicov FeelsBad for Nicov facing Liereyy so fast, he was playing great. Water-focus on draft a bit.
This leaves us with todays matches being:
Accm - TheViper
Yo - DauT
Jordan - BacT
and as a highlight:
Hera - Liereyy
That would mean Yo vs Jordan finalOk, Masmorra sadly beat me to it so there's little to be gained in waiting, here goes. Aoezone Likes supersede any Guess contest prizes anyways and I don't watch T90 streams normally due timezone differences, so GG GL it is.
(The explanations are a bit too varied and some are feeling-based from styles so I might edit in stuff gradually, also something needs to be left for discussion)
King Bela IV Dogao This was in fact one of the last "confirmed", took a few times to check VODs, but Dogao's dark age was there. Tatars pick on arabia is something I have seen Dogao do before, and there were dark age characteristics such as woodline micro timing (believe it or not), and houses creation. Ivaylo Jordan GL strats recognized, fwd vill action on Mudflow mirrored that of his likely practice partner TheViper (they clearly had theorized this as antiFranks), well played by Jordan. Cobra Car Vivi Fwds. From drafted maps, civs, and having similarities with Yo. Edward Longshanks BacT Well, here was BacT civs, BacT pause, legitimate BacT eng. Franks on Arabia. Typical Frankish dark age house+mill. Le Loi TaToH Very high level of play, Sanctity monks, creative strats. Gl strats recognized, practice partner of DauT, Mudflow shared Indians and also Opening+base design (lol). None other GL member fits here vs Hera anyways, Viper would obviously reminisce from HC3 and destroy and his draft would be different. Heavy demos. Apparently Noob Host, playing on HC3_islands (?). John the Fearless Hera Micro nerding like no tomorrow, APM-monster macro, loudmouthing OMG, build style, Bay Italians (copied from Liereyy, or it's an aM' thing). This was pretty clear and many immediately recognized. Philip the Good Liereyy Draft archer-focus. Typical walling-timings. Army usage so Liereyy, keeping up the engagement against odds several times, eg. xbows vs mango+xbows, trust in the ForceMicro. Shared Tempo-pick for Cup, Britons.Little John Nicov FeelsBad for Nicov facing Liereyy so fast, he was playing great. Water-focus on draft a bit.
This leaves us with todays matches being:
Accm - TheViper
Yo - DauT
Jordan - BacT
and as a highlight:
Hera - Liereyy
yes players have interesting perspective and extra information, but i didnt watch much yo's streamThat's a great detail to pick up on, any other interesting comments from Mr Yo that jumped out? The player perspectives are usually the most interesting (e.g. Slam and Nil on T90s stream).