ECL Europe East 4v4 Semi Final Lords of Skull vs Secret

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Lords of Skull 2:3 Secret

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Played with WololoKingdoms 5.7.2 and Userpatch 1.5 Beta R7

 

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  • General Achievements Advancing Chat Researches

    • Version: AOC UP1.5
      Game mod: Wololo Kingdoms
      Duration: 00:43:21
      Avg. rating: 2046
      Ladder: RM - Team Games
      Map: ECL_Team_Acropolis: !C
      View of: [LoS]miguelzin
      Click on the map to enlarge
      Team 3
      TheViper (2074)
      Mongols
      [Secret]_DauT_ (2048)
      Berbers
      JorDan_23 (1882)
      Slavs
      [Secret]TaToH (2113)
      Spanish
      Team 1
      [LoS]miguelzin (2041)
      Mayans
      LoS_F1Re (2058)
      Turks
      LoS_RiuT (2090)
      Teutons
      [LoS]dogao (2064)
      Khmer
    • Overall Military Economy Technology Society

      •   Military Economy Technology Society Total
        TheViper 1540 2152 2460 520 6672
        [Secret]_DauT_ 795 376 1035 390 2596
        JorDan_23 882 3739 2571 130 7322
        [Secret]TaToH 2498 4211 2124 390 9223
        [LoS]miguelzin 6485 3196 2673 130 12484
        LoS_F1Re 0 4074 970 130 5174
        LoS_RiuT 0 3853 605 0 4458
        [LoS]dogao 3255 6342 3238 260 13095
      •   Units killed Units lost Buildings razed Buildings lost Converted
        TheViper 76 143 0 24 0
        [Secret]_DauT_ 37 164 0 29 2
        JorDan_23 53 138 0 11 0
        [Secret]TaToH 128 89 0 2 11
        [LoS]miguelzin 402 237 16 0 0
        LoS_F1Re 0 4 0 0 0
        LoS_RiuT 0 6 0 0 0
        [LoS]dogao 132 61 50 0 0
      •   Food Wood Stone Gold Trade Tributes
        TheViper 16352 14629 3500 7469 0 0/250
        [Secret]_DauT_ 8308 9091 1908 4908 0 0/0
        JorDan_23 20444 15900 991 6922 0 0/0
        [Secret]TaToH 18659 16649 2507 10309 0 250/0
        [LoS]miguelzin 4965 8612 1735 11022 0 49/21238
        LoS_F1Re 15964 11777 1957 6967 0 8221/136
        LoS_RiuT 17231 6867 1692 7516 0 14350/86
        [LoS]dogao 29222 19781 2289 12613 0 0/1159
      •   Feudal Castle Imperial Map expl. Research
        TheViper 00:09:20 00:18:55 00:40:25 50% 25 (17%)
        [Secret]_DauT_ 00:12:50 00:16:26 - 30% 16 (10%)
        JorDan_23 00:09:45 00:18:09 00:36:36 62% 31 (20%)
        [Secret]TaToH 00:12:21 00:16:01 00:36:12 33% 26 (16%)
        [LoS]miguelzin 00:12:40 00:16:13 00:20:18 83% 23 (15%)
        LoS_F1Re 00:11:29 00:38:01 00:45:00 36% 14 (9%)
        LoS_RiuT 00:11:31 - - 34% 7 (4%)
        [LoS]dogao 00:12:28 00:15:14 00:30:12 51% 33 (21%)
      •   Wonders Castles Relics Relic gold Vill high
        TheViper 0 4 0 0 112
        [Secret]_DauT_ 0 3 0 569 68
        JorDan_23 0 1 0 0 117
        [Secret]TaToH 0 3 0 0 128
        [LoS]miguelzin 0 1 0 0 75
        LoS_F1Re 0 1 0 0 111
        LoS_RiuT 0 0 0 0 84
        [LoS]dogao 0 2 0 0 150
    •   Feudal Castle Imperial
      TheViper 00:09:20 00:18:55 00:40:25
      [Secret]_DauT_ 00:12:50 00:16:26 -
      JorDan_23 00:09:45 00:18:09 00:36:36
      [Secret]TaToH 00:12:21 00:16:01 00:36:12
      [LoS]miguelzin 00:12:40 00:16:13 00:20:18
      LoS_F1Re 00:11:29 00:38:01 00:45:00
      LoS_RiuT 00:11:31 - -
      [LoS]dogao 00:12:28 00:15:14 00:30:12
    • PREGAME CHAT
      <TheViper> we pick 2468 color
      <[LoS]miguelzin> ok
      <LoS_RiuT> 1
      <[LoS]dogao> pera
      <[LoS]dogao> deixa eu ir ts
      <[Secret]TaToH> I pick Spanish
      <TheViper> ._.
      <[LoS]miguelzin> we pick turks
      <[LoS]miguelzin> and khmer
      <TheViper> u need to assing civ to player
      <TheViper> right away
      <TheViper> after picking
      <TheViper> it's rules man
      <[LoS]miguelzin> ok
      <TheViper> Mongols
      <[LoS]miguelzin> teutons
      <JorDan_23> Slavs
      <[Secret]_DauT_> berbers
      <[LoS]miguelzin> mayans
      <TheViper> glhf
      <JorDan_23> enjoy
      <[LoS]miguelzin> gl hf guys
      <[LoS]dogao> gl hf
      <LoS_F1Re> glhf
      <LoS_RiuT> gl hf
      INGAME CHAT
      [00:00:29] <TheViper> ratings are available as this match is unrated
      [00:00:34] <TheViper> is match was played at Voobly.com
      [00:18:03] <[Secret]TaToH> sec
      [00:18:03] <[Secret]TaToH> go?
      [00:18:03] <[LoS]miguelzin> 1
      [00:18:03] <LoS_RiuT> 1
      [00:43:09] <[Secret]_DauT_> gg
      [00:43:12] <TheViper> gg
      [00:43:12] <[LoS]dogao> gg
      [00:43:12] * [Secret]_DauT_ resigned
      [00:43:13] <[LoS]miguelzin> gg
      [00:43:13] <LoS_F1Re> gg
      [00:43:15] * TheViper resigned
      [00:43:15] <JorDan_23> GG
      [00:43:15] <[Secret]TaToH> gg
      [00:43:16] <LoS_RiuT> gg
      [00:43:16] * JorDan_23 resigned
      [00:43:21] * [Secret]TaToH resigned
    • TheViper
      [Secret]_DauT_
      JorDan_23
      [Secret]TaToH
      [LoS]miguelzin
      LoS_F1Re
      LoS_RiuT
      [LoS]dogao
      Time
    Version:
    AOC UP1.5
    Mod:
    Wololo
    Duration:
    00:43:21
    Avg. Rating:
    2046
    Ladder:
    RM - Team Games
    Map:
    ECL_Team_Acropolis: !C
    PoV:
    [LoS]miguelzin
    Team 3
    TheViper (2074)
    Mongols
    [Secret]_DauT_ (2048)
    Berbers
    JorDan_23 (1882)
    Slavs
    [Secret]TaToH (2113)
    Spanish
    Team 1
    [LoS]miguelzin (2041)
    Mayans
    LoS_F1Re (2058)
    Turks
    LoS_RiuT (2090)
    Teutons
    [LoS]dogao (2064)
    Khmer
  • General Achievements Advancing Chat Researches

    • Version: AOC UP1.5
      Game mod: Wololo Kingdoms
      Duration: 00:43:21
      Avg. rating: 2046
      Ladder: RM - Team Games
      Map: ECL_Team_Acropolis: !C
      View of: TheViper
      Click on the map to enlarge
      Team 3
      TheViper (2074)
      Mongols
      [Secret]_DauT_ (2048)
      Berbers
      JorDan_23 (1882)
      Slavs
      [Secret]TaToH (2113)
      Spanish
      Team 1
      [LoS]miguelzin (2041)
      Mayans
      LoS_F1Re (2058)
      Turks
      LoS_RiuT (2090)
      Teutons
      [LoS]dogao (2064)
      Khmer
    • Overall Military Economy Technology Society

      •   Military Economy Technology Society Total
        TheViper 1540 2152 2460 520 6672
        [Secret]_DauT_ 795 376 1035 390 2596
        JorDan_23 882 3739 2571 130 7322
        [Secret]TaToH 2498 4211 2124 390 9223
        [LoS]miguelzin 6485 3196 2673 130 12484
        LoS_F1Re 0 4074 970 130 5174
        LoS_RiuT 0 3853 605 0 4458
        [LoS]dogao 3255 6342 3238 260 13095
      •   Units killed Units lost Buildings razed Buildings lost Converted
        TheViper 76 143 0 24 0
        [Secret]_DauT_ 37 164 0 29 2
        JorDan_23 53 138 0 11 0
        [Secret]TaToH 128 89 0 2 11
        [LoS]miguelzin 402 237 16 0 0
        LoS_F1Re 0 4 0 0 0
        LoS_RiuT 0 6 0 0 0
        [LoS]dogao 132 61 50 0 0
      •   Food Wood Stone Gold Trade Tributes
        TheViper 16352 14629 3500 7469 0 0/250
        [Secret]_DauT_ 8308 9091 1908 4908 0 0/0
        JorDan_23 20444 15900 991 6922 0 0/0
        [Secret]TaToH 18659 16649 2507 10309 0 250/0
        [LoS]miguelzin 4965 8612 1735 11022 0 49/21238
        LoS_F1Re 15964 11777 1957 6967 0 8221/136
        LoS_RiuT 17231 6867 1692 7516 0 14350/86
        [LoS]dogao 29222 19781 2289 12613 0 0/1159
      •   Feudal Castle Imperial Map expl. Research
        TheViper 00:09:20 00:18:55 00:40:25 50% 25 (17%)
        [Secret]_DauT_ 00:12:50 00:16:26 - 30% 16 (10%)
        JorDan_23 00:09:45 00:18:09 00:36:36 62% 31 (20%)
        [Secret]TaToH 00:12:21 00:16:01 00:36:12 33% 26 (16%)
        [LoS]miguelzin 00:12:40 00:16:13 00:20:18 83% 23 (15%)
        LoS_F1Re 00:11:29 00:38:01 00:45:00 36% 14 (9%)
        LoS_RiuT 00:11:31 - - 34% 7 (4%)
        [LoS]dogao 00:12:28 00:15:14 00:30:12 51% 33 (21%)
      •   Wonders Castles Relics Relic gold Vill high
        TheViper 0 4 0 0 112
        [Secret]_DauT_ 0 3 0 569 68
        JorDan_23 0 1 0 0 117
        [Secret]TaToH 0 3 0 0 128
        [LoS]miguelzin 0 1 0 0 75
        LoS_F1Re 0 1 0 0 111
        LoS_RiuT 0 0 0 0 84
        [LoS]dogao 0 2 0 0 150
    •   Feudal Castle Imperial
      TheViper 00:09:20 00:18:55 00:40:25
      [Secret]_DauT_ 00:12:50 00:16:26 -
      JorDan_23 00:09:45 00:18:09 00:36:36
      [Secret]TaToH 00:12:21 00:16:01 00:36:12
      [LoS]miguelzin 00:12:40 00:16:13 00:20:18
      LoS_F1Re 00:11:29 00:38:01 00:45:00
      LoS_RiuT 00:11:31 - -
      [LoS]dogao 00:12:28 00:15:14 00:30:12
    • PREGAME CHAT
      <TheViper> we pick 2468 color
      <[LoS]miguelzin> ok
      <LoS_RiuT> 1
      <[LoS]dogao> pera
      <[LoS]dogao> deixa eu ir ts
      <[Secret]TaToH> I pick Spanish
      <TheViper> ._.
      <[LoS]miguelzin> we pick turks
      <[LoS]miguelzin> and khmer
      <TheViper> u need to assing civ to player
      <TheViper> right away
      <TheViper> after picking
      <TheViper> it's rules man
      <[LoS]miguelzin> ok
      <TheViper> Mongols
      <[LoS]miguelzin> teutons
      <JorDan_23> Slavs
      <[Secret]_DauT_> berbers
      <[LoS]miguelzin> mayans
      <TheViper> glhf
      <JorDan_23> enjoy
      <[LoS]miguelzin> gl hf guys
      <[LoS]dogao> gl hf
      <LoS_F1Re> glhf
      <LoS_RiuT> gl hf
      INGAME CHAT
      [00:00:29] <TheViper> ratings are available as this match is unrated
      [00:00:34] <TheViper> is match was played at Voobly.com
      [00:18:03] <[Secret]TaToH> sec
      [00:18:03] <[Secret]TaToH> go?
      [00:18:03] <[LoS]miguelzin> 1
      [00:18:03] <LoS_RiuT> 1
      [00:43:09] <[Secret]_DauT_> gg
      [00:43:11] <JorDan_23> +gG
      [00:43:12] <TheViper> gg
      [00:43:12] * [Secret]_DauT_ resigned
      [00:43:12] <[LoS]dogao> gg
      [00:43:13] <[LoS]miguelzin> gg
      [00:43:14] <LoS_F1Re> gg
      [00:43:15] * TheViper resigned
      [00:43:15] <JorDan_23> GG
      [00:43:16] * JorDan_23 resigned
      [00:43:16] <[Secret]TaToH> gg
      [00:43:17] <LoS_RiuT> gg
      [00:43:21] * [Secret]TaToH resigned
    • TheViper
      [Secret]_DauT_
      JorDan_23
      [Secret]TaToH
      [LoS]miguelzin
      LoS_F1Re
      LoS_RiuT
      [LoS]dogao
      Time
    Version:
    AOC UP1.5
    Mod:
    Wololo
    Duration:
    00:43:21
    Avg. Rating:
    2046
    Ladder:
    RM - Team Games
    Map:
    ECL_Team_Acropolis: !C
    PoV:
    TheViper
    Team 3
    TheViper (2074)
    Mongols
    [Secret]_DauT_ (2048)
    Berbers
    JorDan_23 (1882)
    Slavs
    [Secret]TaToH (2113)
    Spanish
    Team 1
    [LoS]miguelzin (2041)
    Mayans
    LoS_F1Re (2058)
    Turks
    LoS_RiuT (2090)
    Teutons
    [LoS]dogao (2064)
    Khmer
Likes: XyBBaByBBa
Nov 22, 2013
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#5
Sick series.
Better than anything tv could offer, I glad my tv shows twitch.

Im impressed by that utilization of Khmer, with the sling/laming/annoying play early on and then very late game elite eles to steamroll.

Would also have liked that brazilians to win, with a performance like that they would have likely beaten SY too i think.
 
Aug 28, 2013
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#6
los deserve more money/points than SY in this stage.

kinda unfair to have big prize money for 2nd/3rd place in single elimination brackets when secret are so dominant.
 
Aug 5, 2015
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#7
Well i think it's part of the tournament dynamics, results are also affected a little bit by luck. And I guess all teams should be expecting to have to beat Secret at some point in every stage.

But I do support the LoS scoring more in the next stages. My Brazilians are playing at their sharpest and I really hope they don't despair at this unlucky 1st stage bracket.
:sun:
 
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United StatesOrnLu528

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#8
No spoilers, but this has been the best series of the tournament so far. I cannot recommend enough to check out the VoDs if you missed it! Absolute pleasure to cast!
 
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Germanydodageka

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Feb 13, 2018
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#10
Amazing series, amazing games. Secret incredibly strong on baltic. That last game though - if Viper was a bit slower/Miguel a bit faster this could have ended differently. Both would have deserved a win in my opinion
 

United KingdomFall

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Jun 12, 2013
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Fantastic series, looking forward to how well BzK do in future events when others have Secret in the bracket.
 

Unknownmogers87

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Feb 26, 2017
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#12
This is why I'm in favor of Bo1 in double elimination brackets and Bo3 in single elimination. More chances for upsets :smile:

In a long tournament like this one, upsets are important to keep the interest up, not seeing always the same winners.

This was an amazing series. Excited to see more of LoS!
 

Netherlandsnimanoe

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#14
I don't like even having best of ones and best of threes for tournaments, at least not for later stages. Call me a purist, but I want the best players to win, not some upsets for the sake of upsets being "fun". Also with the format being as it is (teams face all teams twice and the same players not being able to play all tournaments) I think there's enough potential for upsets.
 

Unknownorangereaper

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Aug 21, 2014
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#20
Few note-worthy points

1. In games where mongol was picked, the team lost pretty badly.
2. Interesting strategy by Secret with Vikings.
FC into Longboat and dominating
3 . AM and LoS proved there are some interesting strats to be explored.
Both used double sling to dominate Secret in those games respectively.
4. Celts seems to be unstoppble.
Viper just cleaned-up both MBL(mongol) and Miguel(Franks) without any defence from them.
5. Khymer seems to be Khymer.. just boom into BE seems the meta.
 
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United KingdomCicero

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Jul 9, 2017
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#21
Celts seems to be unstoppble.
Both here and on the same map against aM', Secret have used Celt scorpions with the Khmer civ bonus (+1 range). Not only are they very strong with the faster firing speed, but the extra range and HP really helps against onager which is usually the hard counter.
 
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Mar 27, 2018
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I also liked the japanese condottieros on baltic. They are kind of viable with the attackspeed-bonus. Not as strong as before but still ok.
 
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