I made tests with champ vs eagles, on a request of a friend. And also woad vs eagle... Results are pretty much expected. Champ beats eagle, Mayan eagle is a bit stronger than Az in me-lee, I think its because it has more hp. I tested 40 champ vs 40 eagle. Woads are slightly stronger than champ.
Conclusion: I didnt consider economy difference, maybe eagle can refund eco costs, saves resources, and therefore can be match to other infantry such are champs. But results shows that, in generally, Eagle cant be best counter for Champ. That unit isnt stronger than champ itself. That unit has some benefit vs archer, and its nice for raid. Because isnt mounted unit, halb doesnt work, garrisons doesnt work so much, and therefore is hard to stop because, player needs to have prepared strong me-lee units such are champs or palas to stop it on efficient way. Ranged units also cant work so efficiently ( like gunners or archers ) because u need to have many on one place, so therefore is hard to stop eagles, who also have higher speed of moving than common foot units.
Purpose for the unit, in my opinion, isnt "me-lee" ( hand to hand ) combat vs champs or other infantry, such are woads or samurai. Vs Teutonic knt, it also has no chance.
I didnt test, but I would guess that only unit maybe isnt so strong vs Eagle, would be Huskarl, because less armor, but I didnt test. In the other hand, Huskarls can recover number of units, and win because are very cheap in res and production would be slightly faster.
Woads, even with -1 armor, vs melee attacks, are slightly stronger than champs, as my tests showed. I think that its because +10 hp and higher attack rate ( attacks faster than champ ). Champs used for test are Briton champs, because no bonus.
Be free to write ur opinions, and results from experience
Conclusion: I didnt consider economy difference, maybe eagle can refund eco costs, saves resources, and therefore can be match to other infantry such are champs. But results shows that, in generally, Eagle cant be best counter for Champ. That unit isnt stronger than champ itself. That unit has some benefit vs archer, and its nice for raid. Because isnt mounted unit, halb doesnt work, garrisons doesnt work so much, and therefore is hard to stop because, player needs to have prepared strong me-lee units such are champs or palas to stop it on efficient way. Ranged units also cant work so efficiently ( like gunners or archers ) because u need to have many on one place, so therefore is hard to stop eagles, who also have higher speed of moving than common foot units.
Purpose for the unit, in my opinion, isnt "me-lee" ( hand to hand ) combat vs champs or other infantry, such are woads or samurai. Vs Teutonic knt, it also has no chance.
I didnt test, but I would guess that only unit maybe isnt so strong vs Eagle, would be Huskarl, because less armor, but I didnt test. In the other hand, Huskarls can recover number of units, and win because are very cheap in res and production would be slightly faster.
Woads, even with -1 armor, vs melee attacks, are slightly stronger than champs, as my tests showed. I think that its because +10 hp and higher attack rate ( attacks faster than champ ). Champs used for test are Briton champs, because no bonus.
Be free to write ur opinions, and results from experience