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Aland Islandskw1k000000

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oozkan said:
Theoritically yes, but after AOE4 and Cyberpunk...Meh...
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Yeah both are massively behind expectations and not delivering on even basic things.

Difference is Cyberpunk does not have blind faith fan boys
 
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Lokalo said:
Well not exactly, unless you playing on voobly, but I don't understand why ppl do play there anyways.
I mean aoe2 is kind of 22 years old game, but you can't say that when we are talking about graphics while it was remade 2 years ago with way way better graphics than it initially had.
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i play on voobly, have you any problem??
i dont have money to buy a computer nor the space in my apartment.
 
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so you basically say AoE4 for example is an AAA game because it was planned to be one, like a Ferrari is developed to be an AAA car or something.Seems a quite objective way to define AAA games, thus interesting.
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Actually, yes.

And I've driven a Ferrari, though briefly. It's great for cruising, tons of gimmicks and very smooth, but are Hot Hatch cars if you drive them smoothly, that are 10-20% of the price. And arguably, they can be much more fun to drive, AND you can drive them on snow, which you really don't want to do with a Supercar, aka, AAA automobile.

Now I'll never consider a Car being worth six digits. But some Ferraris are more worth that than others. Equally, some AAA games are worth their high price tag, even if it is high. Others just aren't.
 
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LeoMontero said:
i play on voobly, have you any problem??
i dont have money to buy a computer nor the space in my apartment.
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Well I can play even on my old 7 years laptop DE, not as good quality as on this pc, but it doesnt lag,
but I can understand no money issue, although space required for the one you saying you do play and other... I don't see how that differs. But I never said I have an issue with it, I just sincerely do not understand why people would keep playing on voobly, that;s I guess the only reason I can understand is no money/pc, else is just being stubborn to switch, as DE is just better
 
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Lokalo said:
Well I can play even on my old 7 years laptop DE, not as good quality as on this pc, but it doesnt lag,
but I can understand no money issue, although space required for the one you saying you do play and other... I don't see how that differs. But I never said I have an issue with it, I just sincerely do not understand why people would keep playing on voobly, that;s I guess the only reason I can understand is no money/pc, else is just being stubborn to switch, as DE is just better
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1.-No forced settings
2.-Social interaction, public chat, pirvate chat, emotes, etc.
3.-Superior spectator feature with an actual spectator chat
4.-More ranked ladders even for CBA
5.-Low hardware requirements
6.-Reports and bans work there.
7.-Black list to prevent you to play with ertug or hoang.
8.- NPL and noob protection, unlike DE that noob bashing is a feature.

I mean the game version is quite outdated and laggy but the platform is better offering a friendly environment for their users, ever since the punishment patch on DE i have seen lots of players(that own the DE) playing team games back at voobly.
 
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SouFire said:
1.-No forced settings
2.-Social interaction, public chat, pirvate chat, emotes, etc.
3.-Superior spectator feature with an actual spectator chat
4.-More ranked ladders even for CBA
5.-Low hardware requirements
6.-Reports and bans work there.
7.-Black list to prevent you to play with ertug or hoang.
8.- NPL and noob protection, unlike DE that noob bashing is a feature.

I mean the game version is quite outdated and laggy but the platform is better offering a friendly environment for their users, ever since the punishment patch on DE i have seen lots of players(that own the DE) playing team games back at voobly.
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What super spectator? And you can see chat nowadays when spectating, it was introduced.
Well half of those I would say they are pro and con at same time, but idk, list of DE benefits would be way longer. Although I agree, team ratings/matchmaking on DE suck big time, although Im playing mostly 1v1 arabia, so don't really see benefits of voobly there. Things like ranked CBA for certain group could be quite high reason to play there I suppose
 
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SouFire said:
1.-No forced settings
2.-Social interaction, public chat, pirvate chat, emotes, etc.
3.-Superior spectator feature with an actual spectator chat
4.-More ranked ladders even for CBA
5.-Low hardware requirements
6.-Reports and bans work there.
7.-Black list to prevent you to play with ertug or hoang.
8.- NPL and noob protection, unlike DE that noob bashing is a feature.

I mean the game version is quite outdated and laggy but the platform is better offering a friendly environment for their users, ever since the punishment patch on DE i have seen lots of players(that own the DE) playing team games back at voobly.
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Sir, you need to calm down

The Iceys are starting to get restless for voobly
 
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Lokalo said:
What super spectator? And you can see chat nowadays when spectating, it was introduced.
Well half of those I would say they are pro and con at same time, but idk, list of DE benefits would be way longer. Although I agree, team ratings/matchmaking on DE suck big time, although Im playing mostly 1v1 arabia, so don't really see benefits of voobly there. Things like ranked CBA for certain group could be quite high reason to play there I suppose
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I can watch 8 people play and I can talk to them in game while in the same looby room. I can do that with up to 100 other people
 
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UnknownLeoMontero

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Lokalo said:
Well I can play even on my old 7 years laptop DE, not as good quality as on this pc, but it doesnt lag,
but I can understand no money issue, although space required for the one you saying you do play and other... I don't see how that differs. But I never said I have an issue with it, I just sincerely do not understand why people would keep playing on voobly, that;s I guess the only reason I can understand is no money/pc, else is just being stubborn to switch, as DE is just better
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i have a laptop taht cant run the game.
and i will tell you something, pathing is beter in WK or AoC in voobly than in DE.
 
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LeoMontero said:
i have a laptop taht cant run the game.
and i will tell you something, pathing is beter in WK or AoC in voobly than in DE.
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lol. pathing better in WK/AoC? wow talk about bias. DE was a HUGE improvement on pathing and it was also mentioned how it was improved.

aoe4 pathing is even way more advanced, it takes a more modern algo to do pathfinding (it doesnt use the A* algo for the nerds out here) which results in units not bumping into each other etc... the cavalry passing through ranks of allied/own infantry is so buttery smooth
 
Influenza

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Lord Bolton said:
lol. pathing better in WK/AoC? wow talk about bias. DE was a HUGE improvement on pathing and it was also mentioned how it was improved.
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im starting to think this is a troll account. No one who actually played the game could claim this seriously. Your posts are getting bowserlord level of stupid
 
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Lokalo said:
Although I agree, team ratings/matchmaking on DE suck big time, although Im playing mostly 1v1 arabia, so don't really see benefits of voobly there. Things like ranked CBA for certain group could be quite high reason to play there I suppose
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Pretty much. At least from a customer point of view, any "Us vs. Them" between DE and Voobly is an illusion that doesn't exist. For DE and Voobly multiplayer infrastructures offer fundamentally different experiences for different kinds of customers.

And I suppose what disappointment exists is really against Microsoft. And against Microsoft because, in theory, Microsoft being a multibillion dollar corporation with decades of experience in developing video games, ought to easily have the resources and knowledge to develop a AoE II that can merge all of the customer kinds between Voobly, HD, and DE into one game. But it doesn't develop such a AoE II. :whatever:
 
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Am I dreaming or is AoeII still alive
 
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kalpit00 said:
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Am I dreaming or is AoeII still alive
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The only reason why aoe2 is still alive is the constantly growing Rageforest community.

Now seriusly.
 
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kalpit00 said:
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I hope this image will be permanent after Dave and T90's tournament.

And by permanent I mean Hera is still playing AOE4 also :smile:
 
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teutonic_tanks said:
The only reason why aoe2 is still alive is the constantly growing Rageforest community.

Now seriusly.
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Kind of ironic that after all the pros talked about how great AoE4 was because it was more "aggressive" came back to AoE2 to play.... Black Forest
 
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LowEloNoOne said:
Kind of ironic that after all the pros talked about how great AoE4 was because it was more "aggressive" came back to AoE2 to play.... Black Forest
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Yeah... That's super ironic... What conclusion we can make out of this?
 
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Franceamazing_knight

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kalpit00 said:
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Since when does Botez stream Chess and is not Just Chatting! Kappa
 
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LowEloNoOne said:
Kind of ironic that after all the pros talked about how great AoE4 was because it was more "aggressive" came back to AoE2 to play.... Black Forest
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Rage forest is more agressive than arabia.
 
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Lord Bolton said:
lol. pathing better in WK/AoC? wow talk about bias. DE was a HUGE improvement on pathing and it was also mentioned how it was improved.

aoe4 pathing is even way more advanced, it takes a more modern algo to do pathfinding (it doesnt use the A* algo for the nerds out here) which results in units not bumping into each other etc... the cavalry passing through ranks of allied/own infantry is so buttery smooth
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WTH are you talking?? when DE came out, you can kill knights with archers easly because the pathing. they fix a lot, but play one game in Voobly and you will see what im talking about.
 
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Aland Islandskw1k000000

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After winter holidays, aoe2 is consistently outnumbering aoe4

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Lokalo said:
Yeah... That's super ironic... What conclusion we can make out of this?
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That currently the 1v1 matchmaking in AoE2 doesn't give them any incentive to play anymore as there are too less players on their Elo that they could play against with reasonable waiting times.
 
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kw1k000000 said:
After winter holidays, aoe2 is consistently outnumbering aoe4

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Yes, I was checking that too. It started with having few more players during the night hours (in Europe), than having higher daily top. Looks like the next stage is DE having more players on steam for complete 24 than 168 hours. This is when checking these stats would become completely pointless.
 
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Aoe 4 already ded :laugh: :roflmao:
 
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SuperskinnyBLS said:
Aoe 4 already ded :laugh: :roflmao:
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Game lost another 6-7k players during december, by mid february the game might go out from the top 100, i guess we will never find out "the potential" it had lol
 
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