Cheat in AOE2 DE

[JubileuAOE]

This player AoE2.net, is using hack that makes your villager stop working, and can also easily delete your army, watch some RG and in all this happened, and it looks like he can also see through the fog.

 

[teutonic_tanks]

please post this kind of stuff in aoeforums, here:

II - Report a Bug

As with any game, there are bound to be errors or issues which cause unanticipated or unexpected results while you’re playing. These are known as <strong>“bugs,”</strong> and this is where you can report them!

forums.ageofempires.com

that's where devs will find it the fastest.

 

[HappyLeaves]

Can you provide a timestamp of an army delete?

 

[Tempires]

please post this kind of stuff in aoeforums, here:

II - Report a Bug

As with any game, there are bound to be errors or issues which cause unanticipated or unexpected results while you’re playing. These are known as <strong>“bugs,”</strong> and this is where you can report them!

forums.ageofempires.com

that's where devs will find it the fastest.

good way to get yourself banned from official forums by breaking forum's code of conduct.

https://support.ageofempires.com/hc/en-us/requests/new to submit ticket
or AoESupport@microsoft.com for email.

 

[Moneimon]

I played a guy named moonkiller (guess he used that name to trigger moonfaller since i checked his profile and he is his most platyed opponent) and the guy just lames, trash talk and douche with berbers. But in the second game i was winning and he used that cheat, all my vills stopped working in every res but farms, it was tedious AF.
Here is the rec, if u wanna check.

 

[GodOfTheGodless]

I played a guy named moonkiller (guess he used that name to trigger moonfaller since i checked his profile and he is his most platyed opponent) and the guy just lames, trash talk and douche with berbers. But in the second game i was winning and he used that cheat, all my vills stopped working in every res but farms, it was tedious AF.
Here is the rec, if u wanna check.

This player is 100% maphacking, could be using other cheats of course.

It is quite obvious in this game against [GT]YellowJacket. Just watch the rec and you will be convinced.

 

[ashleylynn]

please post this kind of stuff in aoeforums, here:

II - Report a Bug

As with any game, there are bound to be errors or issues which cause unanticipated or unexpected results while you’re playing. These are known as <strong>“bugs,”</strong> and this is where you can report them!

forums.ageofempires.com

that's where devs will find it the fastest.

Just wanted to chime in, cheating reports about 1 player's behavior should first and foremost go our Customer Support team, either in game reporting or at support.ageofempires.com. Calling out players on the Age Forums is not allowed, and you will be re-directed to support, because that's the team who is actually able to action on an instance of cheating.

There is a shortcut in the upper-right hand corner to contact support, which takes you to this page to make a ticket: https://support.ageofempires.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

This should always be the FIRST step in reporting. This team has additional staff that work outside of the usual business hours of World's Edge/FE and cover a wider range of times.

By all means, keep escalating elsewhere, but please do not skip the reporting step. Having more proactive reporting from the community about cheaters via in-game reports and/or support tickets will increase the chances that individual code of conduct violations can be dealt with quickly.

 

[JubileuAOE]

Eu queria saber o que a microsoft vai fazer sobre esses cheats

 

[Influenza]

Eu queria saber o que a microsoft vai fazer sobre esses cheats

They won't do anything besides ban the accounts individually, can't expect a robust anti cheat with intern tier devs

 

[GosBanyat]

(ertug intensifies)

 

[Liamsmalley7]

Apparently there's a huge cheat now where you can literally play games on somebody else's account.

What the hell is even going on anymore

 

[Huehuecoyotl22]

I played a few games the last 3 days the first time since almost a year. In one game I just could not place any buildings for like 1-2 minutes. Everything else continued normally, so it was not lag.
I would rather think it was a bug than a cheat, but who knows, because it was on Arena and exactly when I needed to place buildings to research Castle Age.

 

[SouFire]

So whats going on? i don't play that often and yet i encountered a cheater making double upgrades few days ago, i came across with several cheat reports and what is being done about it? last time the cheater who was deleting the tc's at min 0 got bored rather than banned.

 

[Mouttie]

They won't do anything besides ban the accounts individually, can't expect a robust anti cheat with intern tier devs

This phrase made me laugh so hard. It shows how normal ppl look at us (devs)

 

[_PaternaAoE_]

I played a guy named moonkiller (guess he used that name to trigger moonfaller since i checked his profile and he is his most platyed opponent) and the guy just lames, trash talk and douche with berbers. But in the second game i was winning and he used that cheat, all my vills stopped working in every res but farms, it was tedious AF.
Here is the rec, if u wanna check.

You can actually see even the map hacks as his scout movement is rather weird (he instantly knows where the sheep are - he gets them instantly) and the idle vill thing is something I never knew about, but your concerns seem to be legit. Hope this degenerate gets what he deserves.

BTW, you played that incredibly well, congrats.

 

[Influenza]

This phrase made me laugh so hard. It shows how normal ppl look at us (devs)

it's not about devs in general, it's about the team microsoft pays for to develop aoe2 DE, i.e. many of their major patches were accompanied by game breaking bugs, minimal/no testing before release, and no anticheat whatsoever as cheat developers can update their product within 24 hours of the release of a patch

 

[Moonfaller]

Just wanted to chime in, cheating reports about 1 player's behavior should first and foremost go our Customer Support team, either in game reporting or at support.ageofempires.com. Calling out players on the Age Forums is not allowed, and you will be re-directed to support, because that's the team who is actually able to action on an instance of cheating.

There is a shortcut in the upper-right hand corner to contact support, which takes you to this page to make a ticket: https://support.ageofempires.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

This should always be the FIRST step in reporting. This team has additional staff that work outside of the usual business hours of World's Edge/FE and cover a wider range of times.

By all means, keep escalating elsewhere, but please do not skip the reporting step. Having more proactive reporting from the community about cheaters via in-game reports and/or support tickets will increase the chances that individual code of conduct violations can be dealt with quickly.

I've taken your advice and filed an official complaint against @God (His AoEzone account)aka DRILL TIME, aka MoonKiller, aka U NO WOOD. I've also uploaded multiple recordings of different players who have reached out to me with similar convincing evidence against him.

Eventough I'm very sceptical about the reporting system, we have to keep the faith alive.

Cheers

 

[Moneimon]

You can actually see even the map hacks as his scout movement is rather weird (he instantly knows where the sheep are - he gets them instantly) and the idle vill thing is something I never knew about, but your concerns seem to be legit. Hope this degenerate gets what he deserves.

BTW, you played that incredibly well, congrats.

Yup, i watched the rec after i made the post, and saw his scouting, it was no surprise at all. Ertug was always famous for that kind of cheat. But the stop working vils was really heavy and unexpected.

 

[Mouttie]

it's not about devs in general, it's about the team microsoft pays for to develop aoe2 DE, i.e. many of their major patches were accompanied by game breaking bugs, minimal/no testing before release, and no anticheat whatsoever as cheat developers can update their product within 24 hours of the release of a patch

Yes it was a joke, but aside from that I think it's not really the devs fault, imo (from what i have read/heard during the past years) the code is just so messy. and trust me in industry sometimes making smth from scratch is a lot easier than trying to upgrade smth from the past century (there are modern approaches to old problems and new systems specs, architecture etc)

 

[IYIyTh]

Yes it was a joke, but aside from that I think it's not really the devs fault, imo (from what i have read/heard during the past years) the code is just so messy. and trust me in industry sometimes making smth from scratch is a lot easier than trying to upgrade smth from the past century (there are modern approaches to old problems and new systems specs, architecture etc)

Sounds like a business decision to not do anything about it regarding cost and performance. There is no need to apologize on their behalf for the business decision.

One can't simultaneously reap the benefits of not investing in the product (2nd remaster, mind you,) and deflect criticism for not having invested in the product. Like any business they are trying to incur as little cost in return for maximum profit. "Blaming the code," is an easy, all too convenient excuse for lack of product investment.

 

[Mouttie]

Sounds like a business decision to not do anything about it regarding cost and performance. There is no need to apologize on their behalf for the business decision.

One can't simultaneously reap the benefits of not investing in the product (2nd remaster, mind you,) and deflect criticism for not having invested in the product. Like any business they are trying to incur as little cost in return for maximum profit. "Blaming the code," is an easy, all too convenient excuse for lack of product investment.

Yes, but I just dont like the part where devs get blamed for something they cannot really control (budget). So it doesn't really mean the devs are bad, they just don't have enough resource to develop a good software.

 

[IYIyTh]

Yes, but I just dont like the part where devs get blamed for something they cannot really control (budget). So it doesn't really mean the devs are bad, they just don't have enough resource to develop a good software.

Devs as used by the common aoe2 pleb is just a nebulous term for whomever is in control of the decisions responsible for the inadequacies. It doesn't matter who in fact is deserving of the criticism, only that someone is -- and to date there hasn't been anything done about it.

If anything, the call has always been for more investment which would potentially benefit actual developers., beit from a larger team or the opportunity for additional earning. The actual developers get paid regardless,, I do not believe there is a reasonable concern that some developer who would be cognizant of where the issues truly lay was rethinking their place in the world for criticism they most likely understand better than anyone.


I would hope increased criticism would move the needle towards more product investment -- it would/will have to come from the individual players. Streamers dependent on sponsorships and the game regardless of its quality have little interest of standing in front of a steamroller.

 

[Mouttie]

Devs as used by the common aoe2 pleb is just a nebulous term for whomever is in control of the decisions responsible for the inadequacies. It doesn't matter who in fact is deserving of the criticism, only that someone is -- and to date there hasn't been anything done about it. If anything, the call has always been for more investment which would potentially benefit them, beit from a larger team or the opportunity for additional earning. The actual developers get paid regardless,, I do not believe there is a reasonable concern that some developer who would be cognizant of the fact you speak was rethinking their place in the world for criticism they most likely understand better than anyone.


I would hope increased criticism would move the needle towards more product investment -- it would/will have to come from the individual players. Streamers dependent on sponsorships and the game regardless have little interest of standing in front of a steamroller.

Yes, I agree. I think they should have used AOE 4 money to remake AOE 2 (along with the engine itself) from scratch.

 

[SuperskinnyBLS]

Wow, somebody actually using the correct noun to describe a person that cheats xd

 

[IYIyTh]

This player is 100% maphacking, could be using other cheats of course.

It is quite obvious in this game against [GT]YellowJacket. Just watch the rec and you will be convinced.

I played a guy named moonkiller (guess he used that name to trigger moonfaller since i checked his profile and he is his most platyed opponent) and the guy just lames, trash talk and douche with berbers. But in the second game i was winning and he used that cheat, all my vills stopped working in every res but farms, it was tedious AF.
Here is the rec, if u wanna check.

I just took a look at both of these recs.
The one w/ GodoftheGodless I didn't pick up on anything (if he had maphack the douche and follow up would have been far more effective, not ran into your tc w scout and would've lamed knowing your scout was out of position, for ex.)

Moneimon around 37/38 min the idles start at woodline. Not sure if this was just TM DE woodline feature with shift click or more at play, but everything else seemed above bar/not definitive. A few times moniemon sent vils back to farms that only had 3-4 after they were converted and idled out.

It does see that the stopping caused at regular intervals seems to be non player initiated, not sure how they will detect it -- a user on discord was able to see the actual commands being sent to indicate a stophack for the vils.