1, so it must never go awayAt this rate, AoEZone become a relic of the past.
1, so it must never go awayAt this rate, AoEZone become a relic of the past.
Seems like it is already no longer up to PkZ...If PkZ can no longer host AoEZone, maybe his son can help.
PkZ is no longer the owner
Not sure how much longer that's going to be the case under the new ownership unfortunately. One of the two posts of mine yesterday that robo silently deleted was a personal attack, even if true, but the other one absolutely wasn't targeted at anyone specifically and had no justification for removal other than saying things robo didn't want to see. He deserves credit for not also banning me, but still very concerning for those who treasure this forum as a venue with unbiased moderation. It is something I know for sure would have not been removed under PkZ.AOEZone has been and continues to be the best place for that with far fewer flaws than elsewhere.
One of the two posts of mine yesterday that robo silently deleted was a personal attack, even if true, but the other one absolutely wasn't targeted at anyone specifically and had no justification for removal other than saying things robo didn't want to see. He deserves credit for not also banning me, but still very concerning for those who treasure this forum as a venue with unbiased moderation. It is something I know for sure would have not been removed under PkZ.
Oh cool, I am glad to hear that. Obviously much better than the alternatives. I was not aware deleted posts are notified with a moderation message as a matter of rule so I will keep that in mind. The forum was not down any of the times I checked it yesterday and I saw posts from recently when I looked today so I did not realize it had been through a state reset. That is definitely not something reasonable to attribute to the ownership change I agree.I did not "silently delete" any of your posts. If a post is removed for moderation reasons the user always gets a notification about what was removed and why.
You may (or may not) notice that today is Saturday, and the most recent posts show as being from Tuesday, now what is more likely, no one posts anything for 3+ whole days, or the fact that AoEZone was down most of yesterday means that it must have been reset to a previous save state removing every post during that period?
This has happened before when PkZ was managing the forum btw
If your post was breaking any rules, good thing it was wiped clean and didn't need to be removed by a moderator.
Yeah he should have, but that does not excuse robo, as a presumed representative of the new one, from not answering when asked.well i gotta defend robo on this one
PKZ should been the one who made an anouncment that he give aoczone a new owner
Is there any way to retrieve them through some cache or w/e? There were some really interesting posts that disappeared.it must have been reset to a previous save state removing every post during that period?
If you’re referring to my post in response to Andrew’s about the #1 stuff I saw over years and parallels (saw your mentioning before aoezone went down), I can actually recreate that again in that topic or by pm if you’d like. I can also make it better as I was recovering from a headache when I wrote it. Would be very long though, not sure how many people are into long reads.Is there any way to retrieve them through some cache or w/e? There were some really interesting posts that disappeared.
That is not my information to share. If they do not wish to advertise who they are, that is their business. I simply didn't want people complaining/harassing PkZ about site issues when it is no longer his responsibility.Yeah he should have, but that does not excuse robo, as a presumed representative of the new one, from not answering when asked.
no ideaIs there any way to retrieve them through some cache or w/e? There were some really interesting posts that disappeared.
Aoezone's usp is that it's a safehaven away from insufferable topics like:
-Wow I finally made it to 1000 elo!
-I keep losing, why is this game so hard???
-We need civ X!
-OMG thank you so much developers for keeping this game alive!!
-Insert super funny meme
-We need more automation!
It's fun remembering the past lifes of the formers angry teens that now talk as if they are a CM who was told to protect their stock value and you know they may never say nothing real againI want AoEZone, because it is the only place where I can check some discussions that happened some years ago. And Liquipedia needs a site as source. A Discord channel is not a public source for references.
If no AoEZone, we need another place to store everything or it will be lost forever.
Reddit is just on strike:Aoezone is dying, but reddit seems to be death. So we are left with the official forums?!
I guess this is what some people would call "toxic"? Such accusations without evening asking first. If I were new here, I'd assume you had irrefutable evidence.Not sure how much longer that's going to be the case under the new ownership unfortunately. One of the two posts of mine yesterday that robo silently deleted was a personal attack, even if true, but the other one absolutely wasn't targeted at anyone specifically and had no justification for removal other than saying things robo didn't want to see. He deserves credit for not also banning me, but still very concerning for those who treasure this forum as a venue with unbiased moderation. It is something I know for sure would have not been removed under PkZ.
Your point is about the issues with other channels for discussing is spot on of course. Whining about AoEZone being toxic has always been fundamentally about suppressing valid criticism of how the game has been handled the last 3+ years by those who feel threatened from this due to their personal sympathies or professional affiliations.
It would have been toxic if I did not acknowledge my error in response to robo's clarification, explain why I didn't realize what had happened so he could understand I was not intentionally disregarding alternative evidence, and express my happiness that this is what had happened rather than what I initially thought.I guess this is what some people would call "toxic"? Such accusations without evening asking first. If I were new here, I'd assume you had irrefutable evidence.
I think Nicov's post was very accurate.
As usual, these people who consistently act with no respect make up bullshit of others being soft and their own lazy "opinions" being valuable counterpoints to some sort of mainstream. When it's quite simply: you have no respect for people and people realise that and nobody wants to engage with ****heads like that.
It's not at all about that casters and players don't like criticism. I think we have a very adult scene that deals mostly very well with critical opinions. People can take trash talk, people are self-critical, opinions diverge all the time. None of that is a problem except here.
Because here the amount of lazy a**hole posts is insanely high. It's not about critical opinions, it's about tone. Even when you're following a discussion here with a neutral opinion, it's terrible to read. A massive amount of posts show that the posters have more problems with themselves than with whatever they decided to **** on.
The tone is ridiculously negative, aggressive and unforgiving. The people who create a tone like this want to be destructive, not constructive. They help only themselves. And make this here a bad place because they don't care.
Keep telling yourself that you have valuable opinions that nobody likes to hear because everybody is so soft. Or maybe try to be half as self-critical as you expect all others to be.