3500€ - EUROPEAN RUMBLE TOURNAMENT

Hello,

It is with great pleasure that I am announcing the opening of a new tournament.
Before adding anything, I'd like to introduce myself for those who might not know me.
I am OGN, French streamer gone full-time for slightly longer than a year. I create content around AoE since 2013 and lately I've started to organise events for the game and for the players as this is want I enjoy most nowadays.

Up until now, my biggest project has been the charity tournament called Empires Showdown, which featured pro players and during which we raised 17200€ for children suffering from cancer or leukemia.

Early November, I hosted the French Rumble, which was a 1v1 tournament dedicated to French players above 1600 ELO. With a 1500€ prizepool, this tournament has been a good opportunity to learn and to gain experience as a host so that I could suggest something even bigger in the future (step by step as we say). During the grand finale, we were able to reach 2100 viewers on my French-speaking stream.

I also have the chance to be sponsored by LDLC who provides a studio and a production team. If you would like to get a quick overview of the production, I invite you to click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVIopxOLo-M

Today, I come back to you with the European Rumble. This tournament features a 3500€ prizepool and is dedicated to players from Europe (including transcontinental countries like Turkey and Russia) and owning a 1v1 ELO ranging from 2k and 2k4.

Sign-ups are now open until the 5th of February included. A maximum of 24 players will be selected based on rating.

The tournament will proceed with a group stage, after which the 8 best players will be qualified for the main event that will take place the 6th & 7th of March.

I will stream and cast all games, either live or recorded games.

The purpose of this tournament is to allow players out of the top 16 (or so) to shine, because DauT and other experts are making it hard for them to show off their skills.

If you have questions, you can ask here or on Discord.

Thank you all and I hope this will be a great success.

The tournament is organised on Discord (sign-ups and so on)

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European Rumble

EUROPEAN RUMBLE European Rumble is a European 1v1 tournament hosted by OGN EMPIRES. Tournament The tournament is organised on Discord (https://discord.gg/nw7wV9U9DE). The tournament is divided in 2 phases: group stage and final stage. Group stage consists of 4 groups of 6 players in which ...

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PS: the tournament is open-streaming, except for France where I keep the exclusivity. Contact us if you'd like more information.

 

Just to clarify is the 2k-2k4 range a hard limit? Meaning the 2k4+ players will be excluded?

 

Indeed, 2k4 + are excluded

 

Sucks for Barles tho, now that is he getting in good form with top 10 ladder and is about to yield some good tournament results, he probably gets excluded because he is too good xd

 

Awesome, but I’d be wary of using ladder rating as a requisite considering coustilliers are a thing now...

 

Reads post -> checks aoe2.net-> 2392 highest rating -> Smiles

 

Cool, always great to see a tournament for upcoming players!
Some notes:
In the Captains Mode the Sicilians and the Burgundians are unselected, so are they not available to get played or is it a mistake?
How will the groups be made? As in which seeds will be place in which groups?
What happens in case there's a three-way tie where the players have the same amount of games and matches won and they all beat one of the other two players? I suggest you then look at the Buchholz rating, so look at who did the best against the highest opponents.
If I read the rules correctly, for the Group Stage the players will get ranked based on the amount of maps they won? I would suggest ordering them by the amount of series won first, so that you don't have scenarios where a player gets placed below another player, even if they didn't lose a single series, just because they performed worse against a lower rated opponent (similar to how Viper won CoT, despite JorDan beating him).
And then there's this issue I raised for Masters of Socotra that applies here as well:

I see that for the civ drafts the player who has the last ban also gets to have the first pick. I think that's a bit unfair and it would be more fair to switch the bans around so that the person who bans first gets to pick first.

As an example: Let's say there are two OP civs and all other civs are mediocre. The player who bans first has two options: either they ban an OP civ or they don't. If they do, the other player won't ban the second OP civ and pick that civ. If they don't, the other player will ban the second OP civ and pick the other OP civ. In both scenarios the player with the second ban and first pick is at an advantage.
If you switched the bans around, the scenario is different: If the player with the first ban and first pick bans an OP civ, the other player will ban the second OP civ and both will pick mediocre civs. If the player with first pick and first ban bans a mediocre civ, the other player will ban a mediocre civ as well and both get to pick one OP civ and other mediocre civs.

I know it's only a very minor advantage, but it's an unfair advantage and is easily fixed, so hope to see it happen. Best of luck with this tournament!

Another suggestion: I think it's possible that some people might drop out at the end of the Group Stage due to them not having a chance to qualify anymore, so maybe look at how to punish them if they quit the tournament (maybe not allowed for next one) or look at how to reward them even if they don't qualify (small prize per game won)

 

What happens in case there's a three-way tie where the players have the same amount of games and matches won and they all beat one of the other two players? I suggest you then look at the Buchholz rating, so look at who did the best against the highest opponents.

I assume you mean Sonneborn-Berger...?
(Buchholz never makes sense in a round-robin)

 

I assume you mean Sonneborn-Berger...?
(Buchholz never makes sense in a round-robin)

Yeah I meant Neustadtl (which is the same as Sonneborn-Berger), thanks

 

Awesome, but I’d be wary of using ladder rating as a requisite considering coustilliers are a thing now...

Maybe you can use highest rating as of January 25th?

 

2450 max plz
barels and sitaux where you ?_?

MEMO:
THEMAX 2443
JORDAN_23 2403
DAUT2422
SLAM2443
TATOH2412

 

2450 max plz
barels and sitaux where you ?_?

MEMO:
THEMAX 2443
JORDAN_23 2403
DAUT2422
SLAM2443
TATOH2412

Isn't your post literally defining the reason why its 2400 and not 2450

 

I'm devastated that that great European Slam can't participate because his rating is too high

 

Maybe instead of having a rating cap it would be better to not allow anyone who has become top 16 in a S-Tier 1v1 RM/EW tournament in the last year.

As far as I can see the only difference being that Barles would be allowed to participate, while LaaaaaN wouldn't.

 

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Thanks for your interest nimanoe.

Silicians and Burgundians are not available.
Groups will be made with the snake seeding method.
Thank you for suggesting the Neustadtl rating system in case of a three-way tie, we take good note of it.
Group stage indeed rewards map wins over series. We opted for this because we introduce new maps so we want to reward players who perform on all maps.
Civ draft slightly favours player B to compensate for map draft favouring player A, although with the snipe at the end there should be no OP civ advantage.
You're right, we've actually had a player dropping during the previous tournament. We'll talk about this, thanks!

 

Vietnam is EUROPEAN?

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Vietnam is EUROPEAN?

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Sorry,you are 25+.

 

Maybe instead of having a rating cap it would be better to not allow anyone who has become top 16 in a S-Tier 1v1 RM/EW tournament in the last year.

As far as I can see the only difference being that Barles would be allowed to participate, while LaaaaaN wouldn't.

Or it could be either/or so that both can participate

 

Maybe instead of having a rating cap it would be better to not allow anyone who has become top 16 in a S-Tier 1v1 RM/EW tournament in the last year.

As far as I can see the only difference being that Barles would be allowed to participate, while LaaaaaN wouldn't.

+ JorDan and Modri could participate..

 

Vietnam is EUROPEAN?

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Hey, Australia comes to eurovision...

 

+ JorDan, Modri and Badboy could participate whereas chart and Straydog couldn't.

Well, chart straydog and badboy are not European yet :D

 

Well, chart straydog and badboy are not European yet :D

fixed

 

Vietnam is EUROPEAN?

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Stay tuned my bro, soon i organize a showmatch with you !

I know many would have liked to see Jordan participate in the tournament. The problem being that if I make an exception for this one, is it fair for the others?

Likewise, is it a professional to exercise this kind of privilege?

I'll let you express yourself on the subject. We are ready to listen to all your opinions.

 

No it's not fair to others. If you make an exception for Jordan all hell will break loose. Just stick with the 2400 cut-off point and maintain it strictly is my opinion.

 

This is also what I believe indeed